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NewGuy01 12-27-2018 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 2732441)
Long time Alaska pilot here. Just fly out of where you live. Commuting sucks. One other thought. Seattle will always have the most scheduling flexibility/variety.


Shame we couldn’t have taken advantage of the affordable housing prices when you did.

Two different airlines....


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VirginEskimo 12-27-2018 07:57 PM

“Fly out of where you live?” So unless you live in base, you should resign and get a different flying job close to home? Or did you mean uproot your life and move to the biggest base of the airline that bought your commuter friendly airline? Either way it’s a real feckless “let them eat cake comment.” Commuter friendly schedules are a huge concern of a rapidly growing proportion of pilots on our list, especially as new guys find themselves priced out of our west coast bases.

Kerizbro 12-27-2018 08:10 PM

What about 320 vs 737 flying from LAX.
Monthly credit?
Reserve time?
Schedules?

Thanks

echelon 12-27-2018 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by VirginEskimo (Post 2732490)
“Fly out of where you live?” So unless you live in base, you should resign and get a different flying job close to home? Or did you mean uproot your life and move to the biggest base of the airline that bought your commuter friendly airline? Either way it’s a real feckless “let them eat cake comment.” Commuter friendly schedules are a huge concern of a rapidly growing proportion of pilots on our list, especially as new guys find themselves priced out of our west coast bases.


Every terrible thing in our contract can be boiled down to the fact that so many L-AS people drive to work. Awful reserve rules? Not that bad if you live in base. Cancellation pay that requires you to still come to base? Not that bad if you live in base. Awful commuter clause? Non issue if you live there. Uncommutable pairings and a 5:51 block hour limit that ruins productivity? Not that bad if you live in base. Crappy line bidding with very little flexibility? Doable if you live in base.

This is just a short list of things that clearly haven't been a priority in at least the last decade for the Seattle/Portland/Anchorage crowd. Why not, is anyone's guess as far as I'm concerned because improvements to all of those things would benefit everyone, not just commuters.

lowflying 12-27-2018 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by VirginEskimo (Post 2732490)
“Fly out of where you live?” So unless you live in base, you should resign and get a different flying job close to home? Or did you mean uproot your life and move to the biggest base of the airline that bought your commuter friendly airline? Either way it’s a real feckless “let them eat cake comment.” Commuter friendly schedules are a huge concern of a rapidly growing proportion of pilots on our list, especially as new guys find themselves priced out of our west coast bases.


You guys are wound up way too tight if you can take the most repeated and true statement in the airline industry, "live in base," offered to a potential new hire and twist it into something elitist and bad.

Klsytakesit 12-28-2018 06:00 AM

Secret Sauce

NewGuy01 12-28-2018 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by lowflying (Post 2732522)
You guys are wound up way too tight if you can take the most repeated and true statement in the airline industry, "live in base," offered to a potential new hire and twist it into something elitist and bad.



So other than Anchorage, which I know nothing about our bases consist of the most expensive cities to live in, pretty much on earth.

The thing is, it wasn’t that way until relatively recently. However now the housing market is beyond overheated in Seattle and everyone is telling me to simply “move in base.”


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AKpilotdude 12-28-2018 10:39 AM

ANC is right up there on the cost of living index....


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Klsytakesit 12-28-2018 01:07 PM

According to Ben, he can offer total compensation that sits 15-25% below his competition as long as everyone drives to work. It has been working well for him since at least 1995. I guess we will see how it goes from here.

lowflying 12-28-2018 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 2732689)
So other than Anchorage, which I know nothing about our bases consist of the most expensive cities to live in, pretty much on earth.

The thing is, it wasn’t that way until relatively recently. However now the housing market is beyond overheated in Seattle and everyone is telling me to simply “move in base.”


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I commute and Alaska isn't the greatest for commuters but we can improve things in the next CBA. I also think that you can live within 1.5 hours of PDX and SEA for a reasonable price. SFO/LAX are tougher unfortunately...


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