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Old 06-15-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by coolyokeluke View Post
I think a lot of the resistance against PBS from hard line bidding advocates is that they don't trust Angle Lake.
That right there is the profound truth.

It's like "Hey I know the food is great but I don't trust the chef, so I'm not gonna eat it, even though I'm starving over here" ......

I totally see their point of view...... but..... WE ARE starving! lol
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:15 AM
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If you’re going to move east. Take JB.
If you’re going to stay west coast AK.

Having done a transcon commute i do not recommend it given a choice. Stay local. Move to a base. Simplify your life.

Good luck
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz View Post
Yes, I thought about that and agree. If you live on the West coast, as bad as the scheduling is, it's better than commuting to the East coast to fly for JB..... and I'm a fan of JB...

That's 30 - 40 more extra hours a month (unpaid) in a pressurized can and losing 4 or more days of your own DAYS OFF. Your body and your family don't need that...
This ^^^^^^ If you burn 4 days off a month commuting in/out over a 30 year career .... that's roughly 4 years of your life. Think about that on your next commute. If you want to live on the west coast and your choices are Alaska or Jetblue .... it's a no brainer, Alaska.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:25 AM
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Commuting bites and it'll take years off your life in the long run. I'd go with AS for west coast and B6 for east coast. These two are not your top tier career airlines by any stretch but they are a step up from the the regionals, at least in pay and 401K. Definitely good places for touch 'n go with complimentary type ratings.
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:11 AM
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A transcon commute long term adds at least 10 yrs age-ing over your actual age. Sully had been doing his commute for 15 years and look at him when the accident happened at 58. He easily looked 68-70.

And a reserve transcon commute, forget it. Even though I was POed at NY closing, the reasons above were enough to pull the trigger to pack up and move west coast in base. Though to be fair not everyone is in a position to do that due to wife’s job, kids school, taking care of elder parents, having a family network nearby, etc. But we were forced to move or commute. If you’re starting your career you haven’t been forced anything. Take the company that keeps you where you are. As a west coast guy, Alaska is the choice over jetblue.
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Old 06-15-2019, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
If you’re going to move east. Take JB.
If you’re going to stay west coast AK.

Having done a transcon commute i do not recommend it given a choice. Stay local. Move to a base. Simplify your life.

Good luck
I did this commute for my first 2 years at B6. I’ve never been more tired and unhealthy in my life, never again!!! I couldn’t agree with this post more..
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Old 06-15-2019, 12:31 PM
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JetBlue is an east coast airline and living out west you will sacrifice huge amounts of QOL and $$$.

Go to Alaska, and if it sucks there then try to work your way into Delta/United/AA/SWA which all have significant west coast operations.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by coolyokeluke View Post
. People need to understand that PBS is a generic description and that the devil's in the details - and there's A LOT of details. PBS won't make things better without the Union controlling it. I think a lot of the resistance against PBS from hard line bidding advocates is that they don't trust Angle Lake.
The Anglers will never, repeat, NEVER allow the Union to control PBS. Don't believe me? Volunteer for the Scheduling Committee and see just how much input the Union has to the hard lines.

The Alaska MEC controlling PBS. Now THAT'S funny.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:15 AM
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The Anglers will never, repeat, NEVER allow the Union to control PBS. Don't believe me? Volunteer for the Scheduling Committee and see just how much input the Union has to the hard lines.

The Alaska MEC controlling PBS. Now THAT'S funny.
Perhaps. I flew with the scheduling chairman. While he was far from sunshine and rainbows neither did he share your certitude regarding this.

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Perhaps. I flew with the scheduling chairman. While he was far from sunshine and rainbows neither did he share your certitude regarding this.
He has to be hopeful during contract negotiations. Why? Because he's going to have to convince the rank and file to vote for a contract that contains it.

Come back AFTER PBS is in your contract and let's see who's got control of the algorithm.
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