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fifidriver 12-17-2019 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 2940719)
The big question is.....how long can an airline with exponential growth planned like SWA hold out for before they consider scooping us up?

Hopefully, not long at all! 😉

NewGuy01 12-17-2019 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by fifidriver (Post 2940730)
Hopefully, not long at all! [emoji6]



I’m not sure I want to be at the bottom of SWA seniority list...


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Texasbound 12-17-2019 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 2940732)
I’m not sure I want to be at the bottom of SWA seniority list...


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That can't happen anymore, unless you agree to it.

Texasbound 12-17-2019 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 2940345)
Yea...this might get interesting. Good luck everyone, keep your apps up to date.

Why keep your app up to date? If things get bad and Alaska fails, they get bought. Ever met anyone that left airline A to go to B and then B buys A the next week? Happed to more that a few, lost a lot of years of seniority.

Thrill 12-17-2019 03:25 PM

5/2020 bid
 
Tell SWA management that. (In reference to a possible SLI)


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NewGuy01 12-17-2019 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 2940751)
That can't happen anymore, unless you agree to it.



Sadly, that is what I’m afraid of my friend...


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rickair7777 12-18-2019 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 2940751)
That can't happen anymore, unless you agree to it.

It happened to tranny but I don't think it could happen to AS. I don't think SW could actually afford to buy AS and then liquidate and transfer assets. Slots and gates allocated to AS are not owned by AS, and therefore would likely not automatically transfer to a successor.

Also AS is too big, couldn't hire and train pilots fast enough, and couldn't afford to buy AS and then park it while they slowly assimilate the assets.

While the SW pilots would be happy to spend billions of the shareholders money to pull of an end-run SLI staple job, their managers wouldn't, nor would their BoD or shareholders let them. The SW pilots would just have to live with a likely arbitrated SLI, per established precedent. Management doesn't care about their pilots THAT much.

Also AS has got to have successorship scope???

NewGuy01 12-18-2019 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2941066)



Also AS has got to have successorship scope???


LOL


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Packrat 12-18-2019 02:06 PM

Ask an ex-Trannie how the SWA SLI philosophy is applied.

rickair7777 12-19-2019 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2941339)
Ask an ex-Trannie how the SWA SLI philosophy is applied.

I know how it was applied, but SW threatened to liquidate and part-out the airline if they didn't "voluntarily" accept a staple job.

My premise is that AS is to big (and expensive in this context) to liquidate... for the sole purpose of doing an end-run around Mccaskil-Bond just to give SW pilots an upper-hand (staple) in an SLI. Don't think SW management cares that much about how senior their legacy pilots are.

Presumably SW wanted to ditch the tranny 717's anyway. In the case of AS, *presumably* part of their intent would be to acquire a small-ish airbus subfleet to try it out for a while with an eye towards long-term diversification. If the max crashes had happened 5-8 years from now and grounded the majority of SW's fleet for 1+ years, they would be SOL (or at least in need of a big federal bailout).


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