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rickair7777 11-23-2019 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2928471)
Wouldn’t Delta drop them like a hot potato if they flew planes that large? I don’t think Skywest wants to lose their partnership with Delta so they can pick up some 100 seat flying for Alaska.


Originally Posted by AnchorDown (Post 2928485)
And United, and American. Horizon is the only one that could conceivably fly them. Scope.


This is correct (I'm not aware of what AA has along these lines).

Practically speaking I don't think anyone other than QX could do it.

Ala5ka 11-23-2019 07:40 AM

https://cdn-vox--cdn-com.cdn.ampproj...-is-fine.0.jpgMEA seriously reminds me of this cartoon.

Several months after being freed from Alaska Airlines internment camp, I can confirm that the grass is greener at other airlines. Update those apps and escape the sinking ship- especially the bus guys and gals.

Originally Posted by Mea25000 (Post 2927826)
Good luck, everyone will be fine.


ShyGuy 11-23-2019 12:09 PM

Internment camp huh? :rolleyes:

Ala5ka 11-23-2019 02:30 PM

Forced relocation and incarceration haha, fairly accurate for nyc pilots as you know well!

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2928999)
Internment camp huh? :rolleyes:


jamesholzhauer 11-23-2019 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Mea25000 (Post 2928493)
You realize there is a 737-700max?

No there isn’t. Just like there isn’t a 787-900 or a 747-800. There is a Max 7 though.

Semantics aside and to your point, nobody is really ordering it. It’s a tiny fraction of the total Max orders, and most have been deferred/delayed. The economics of it just aren’t that great. But I suppose if someone is proudly all Boeing and can’t fill a Max 8 on some routes and the incremental lower operating costs of a Max 7 make it work, maybe it would happen. Unless scope isn’t addressed and horizon flies some 190/195s instead.

ExperimentalAB 11-23-2019 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer (Post 2929106)
No there isn’t. Just like there isn’t a 787-900 or a 747-800. There is a Max 7 though.

Semantics aside and to your point, nobody is really ordering it. It’s a tiny fraction of the total Max orders, and most have been deferred/delayed. The economics of it just aren’t that great. But I suppose if someone is proudly all Boeing and can’t fill a Max 8 on some routes and the incremental lower operating costs of a Max 7 make it work, maybe it would happen. Unless scope isn’t addressed and horizon flies some 190/195s instead.

The economics of it are far better than an RJ...and don’t forget Alaska opened their route map for years using the 700 NG.

ShyGuy 11-24-2019 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by Ala5ka (Post 2929046)
Forced relocation and incarceration haha, fairly accurate for nyc pilots as you know well!

I was former NYC. Still wouldn’t use the internment camp analogy. :rolleyes: It’s a job. Move, commute, or quit. None of those options exist for those in history who were forced into internment camps.

NewGuy01 11-24-2019 10:40 AM

Is it just me or is the 700’s performance important for the SE Alaska stuff?


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Mea25000 11-25-2019 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer (Post 2929106)
No there isn’t. Just like there isn’t a 787-900 or a 747-800. There is a Max 7 though.

Semantics aside and to your point, nobody is really ordering it. It’s a tiny fraction of the total Max orders, and most have been deferred/delayed. The economics of it just aren’t that great. But I suppose if someone is proudly all Boeing and can’t fill a Max 8 on some routes and the incremental lower operating costs of a Max 7 make it work, maybe it would happen. Unless scope isn’t addressed and horizon flies some 190/195s instead.

Thanks... yes, I was trying dummy it down. I guess once again, I am the only dummy.
My point, we already have a 124pax airplane. Single fleet can be done very well with a Max 7,8,9,10... all of which AS is exploring. (120 pax to 190pax)
Obviously the bigger the jet the lower the CSM, the greater the available RASM... this is a RASM and CSM airline. We don’t need the Bus for the lower end.

Mea25000 11-25-2019 12:09 PM

This is second hand, but I believe the person that told me... BM and GB are pushing hard for 30 E2 at horizon. Remember to thank them this holiday season!


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