Life at Alaska !
#21
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: Metal brackets
Posts: 190
I’m fairly happy. If you are a newhire, the key is to live in base. This airline isn’t really built for commmuting. Everything in the CBA seems to be designed with a live-in-base mentality. Your experience at this company will be night and day difference depending on if you’re commuting or living in base.
#22
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2021
Position: A320
Posts: 3
Wow this is all very disheartening to hear. I recently got a CJO and am in the background checks process hoping to start at Alaska shortly. I had know idea things were so bad between the pilot group and management. It is great to hear that there is good leadership in the union. Times are changing so much right now and if they are going to be able to attract that amount of pilots they want (and keep them longterm) then work rules are bound to change and increased pay and quality of life I have to assume. Im not going to pass up an opportunity to fly for a major and stay at a regional any longer than I have to but I do have a lot of time left in may career, I hoped to spend it at Alaska but if its really is as bad as y'all say then that may not be the case.
#24
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 74
If it’s a step forward, by all means come here. But keep your stuff updated everywhere else and don’t leave your regional until you’ve got you’re PIC time so you can apply to FedEx and UPS while you’re here too. There’s quite a few FOs temporarily stuck til they can upgrade and get their PIC time to be more competitive at the real major airlines.
#25
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 461
Wow this is all very disheartening to hear. I recently got a CJO and am in the background checks process hoping to start at Alaska shortly. I had know idea things were so bad between the pilot group and management. It is great to hear that there is good leadership in the union. Times are changing so much right now and if they are going to be able to attract that amount of pilots they want (and keep them longterm) then work rules are bound to change and increased pay and quality of life I have to assume. Im not going to pass up an opportunity to fly for a major and stay at a regional any longer than I have to but I do have a lot of time left in may career, I hoped to spend it at Alaska but if its really is as bad as y'all say then that may not be the case.
#26
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 325
Come for the type. Keep updating as often as you were at your regional. United or Delta will call you soon enough and you can leave this place behind
Wow this is all very disheartening to hear. I recently got a CJO and am in the background checks process hoping to start at Alaska shortly. I had know idea things were so bad between the pilot group and management. It is great to hear that there is good leadership in the union. Times are changing so much right now and if they are going to be able to attract that amount of pilots they want (and keep them longterm) then work rules are bound to change and increased pay and quality of life I have to assume. Im not going to pass up an opportunity to fly for a major and stay at a regional any longer than I have to but I do have a lot of time left in may career, I hoped to spend it at Alaska but if its really is as bad as y'all say then that may not be the case.
#27
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Joined APC: May 2016
Position: 737 tiller master
Posts: 288
Solid advice. Get the training, experience, and a type or two then bail when opportunity calls. I get texts every so often from FOs who've left for greener pastures and they have no regrets with their decision.....zero! The common theme amongst them are QOL and pay. No surprise there. No airline is perfect but Alaska is waaaay behind others, allegedly.
#28
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
ShyGuy can you honestly say that your quality of life is better than it was at Virgin America (a start up)? I sure as heII can’t! My QOL was better as a commuter at VX than it is now driving to work at ALA5KA. I’m stuck here due to my age. If I was 10 years younger I’d already be gone to greener pastures. BTW I live in SEA and would gladly go back to commuting to get out of AS.
SEA sounds abusive because there’s almost always a flight they can assign to a reserve. And even lineholder, plenty of opportunities to see a DH turn into an operating flight (or just random schedule changes). I have flown with SEA reserve FOs and it’s busy for sure.
10th yr pay.
This is not anyone’s first rodeo. We’ve seen this before. My last company we went 5 yrs past amendable date before we got a new TA. The NMB process is nothing new, of course it was going to happen so I can’t put on a pretend shock face. The pandemic delayed it, otherwise we’d already be in NMB before last month.
Lastly, and I have asked this of a rep and I don’t have a good answer (because honestly there isn’t really an answer). My question is simple, why would the company give us anything? For example, Scope. Why? And what’s our leverage? I’ve heard the hiring and attrition argument and that has never played out in any large numbers. End of the NMB process release for self help? Are we really going to pretend that the NMB would release or the PEB wouldn’t step in to stop a strike for a company that is state-named and a sole source service for several AK communities?
Not trying to be Debbie Downer, just a realist. Thanks largely to a seniority system for about 60% here, to quote Dave Harken in ‘Horrible Bosses’ “So settle in. Because you are here for the long haul.”
#29
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 148
I always enjoyed flying with him when he was a FO. Sharper than most and flew the bus well. Never a bad word out about other pilots here.... unlike Ala.....ka.
#30
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
We'll never get anywhere with this decades old self-defeatism that has kept Alaska pilots 2 steps behind the curve.
Don't do the NMB's job for them.
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