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Old 09-26-2022, 12:45 AM
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Instead of voicing your own preferences, display your predictive skills. Include your % breakdown for bonus points.
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Old 09-26-2022, 04:57 AM
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It will pass probably 70/30
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Old 09-26-2022, 06:33 AM
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This easily passes. The disconnect between what you read on here VS talking to guys on the line is unreal. 80/20.

No concessions. 330/hr ending NB pay(highest in the world). Vacation rules that will allow 20+ off in a month with less than a week vacation. Golden days to protect birthdays anniversaries etc. Scope. Reserve rules with several industry leading provisions and no junior manning unlike most every other airline. 5:15/ adg. Need I go on? This is a quantam leap over current rules.
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Old 09-26-2022, 07:03 AM
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Hey Mike, we get it. You want this to pass. What do you have, 1 year left?

80/20 is BS. For those of us under 60 and will be stuck with this , there's major issues. Improvements, but major issues.

Relax.
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Old 09-26-2022, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CordovaCA View Post
This easily passes. The disconnect between what you read on here VS talking to guys on the line is unreal. 80/20.

No concessions. 330/hr ending NB pay(highest in the world). Vacation rules that will allow 20+ off in a month with less than a week vacation. Golden days to protect birthdays anniversaries etc. Scope. Reserve rules with several industry leading provisions and no junior manning unlike most every other airline. 5:15/ adg. Need I go on? This is a quantam leap over current rules.
^^^^^^^^^^^ This!
Facing an economic turndown, most have the gumption that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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Old 09-26-2022, 07:10 AM
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There will never be as good an opportunity as now. 95% note with pilots leaving! Stop selling fear and settling. Revolting.
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Old 09-26-2022, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CordovaCA View Post
This easily passes. The disconnect between what you read on here VS talking to guys on the line is unreal. 80/20.

No concessions. 330/hr ending NB pay(highest in the world). Vacation rules that will allow 20+ off in a month with less than a week vacation. Golden days to protect birthdays anniversaries etc. Scope. Reserve rules with several industry leading provisions and no junior manning unlike most every other airline. 5:15/ adg. Need I go on? This is a quantam leap over current rules.
You missed a few… that suck! ADG 5:15 blows, no profit sharing increases, reserve days off are behind. I’ll keep going here. 401k increase is terrible, as is the retro pay. No language or increase for the company to stall negotiations again, and sick time didn’t get touched. Let’s not forget our first class medical reimbursement that United put out there as well. Simply put, the company is begging you to say yes cause it’s a good deal for them. You just can’t see that cause all you see is the dollar amount and a quick fix. Oh which will take over a year to implement as well. 🤣 To all you yes voters, you are exactly why this place will never be at the top. Worried about everything I’ve realized. Stay inside, bad things happen outside. 🤣

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Old 09-26-2022, 08:16 AM
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My unscientific poll is at 76 yes 19 no or 80% … I am confident 75% +- 3

Even though many of you on here have yet to meet a yes vote 🙄

ALPA pulling would indicate at least a 70% pass rate
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Old 09-26-2022, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotsoup55 View Post
You missed a few… that suck! ADG 5:15 blows, no profit sharing increases, reserve days off are behind. I’ll keep going here. 401k increase is terrible, as is the retro pay. No language or increase for the company to stall negotiations again, and sick time didn’t get touched. Let’s not forget our first class medical reimbursement that United put out there as well. Simply put, the company is begging you to say yes cause it’s a good deal for them. You just can’t see that cause all you see is the dollar amount and a quick fix. Oh which will take over a year to implement as well. 🤣 To all you yes voters, you are exactly why this place will never be at the top. Worried about everything I’ve realized. Stay inside, bad things happen outside. 🤣
You’re a 15 yr SEA based Cpt, but anyone who votes yes on the best contract in Alaska history with even some industry leading provisions…. THEY are the reason Alaska “will never be at the top.”

Not sure how you square that circle, but OK.
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Originally Posted by Pilotsoup55 View Post
You missed a few… that suck! ADG 5:15 blows, no profit sharing increases, reserve days off are behind. I’ll keep going here. 401k increase is terrible, as is the retro pay. No language or increase for the company to stall negotiations again, and sick time didn’t get touched. Let’s not forget our first class medical reimbursement that United put out there as well. Simply put, the company is begging you to say yes cause it’s a good deal for them. You just can’t see that cause all you see is the dollar amount and a quick fix. Oh which will take over a year to implement as well. 🤣 To all you yes voters, you are exactly why this place will never be at the top. Worried about everything I’ve realized. Stay inside, bad things happen outside. 🤣
Yup our bonus program sucks… during COVID when we we were losing 700 million a year, I got two bonuses averaging 26k a year… AA DA WN UA all got ZERO!.. remember that when you complain about retro!
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