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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3502478)
My take so far...
Pay (total comp): Maybe close to SWA but not past. Schedule/QOL: Likely better than SWA. Still need to see the actual language, and let 3300 people play devil's advocate with that. I'm pretty sure the union already worked that over very, very thoroughly so not expecting many loopholes. But we'll see. I think AS pilots will have perhaps more flexibility to trade between $ and QOL than SWA. |
Originally Posted by Av8rRr
(Post 3502571)
Again, with 5:15 ADG I highly doubt this.
just a few of your gems from APC since Fri…. starting almost immediately after the TA was announced. Your doubt is an assertion (present since day one)…..not an argument |
Originally Posted by av8or
(Post 3502652)
“Scab”, “trash”, “idiot” “dumb” “bring on the strike”…..
just a few of your gems from APC since Fri…. starting almost immediately after the TA was announced. Your doubt is an assertion (present since day one)…..not an argument |
Originally Posted by Av8rRr
(Post 3502670)
You like average. It’s fine.
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ADG is a protection more than a rig. It helps to prevent unproductive pairings from being built. A 2 for 1 duty rig is the other way to skin the same cat. ADG is better imo due to the fact 2 for 1 isn’t better until 10.5 hrs duty in this case. 2 for 1 also doesn’t help with the last min short garbage turn that needs covering. I believe DL might be leading the pack at 530 or 545 but there are others at 5. DL might even be calendar but it is still an average. What do you have right now? It would be helpful if you had a min calendar day to go with that but I’m not sure if anyone has both?
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
(Post 3502724)
ADG is a protection more than a rig. It helps to prevent unproductive pairings from being built. A 2 for 1 duty rig is the other way to skin the same cat. ADG is better imo due to the fact 2 for 1 isn’t better until 10.5 hrs duty in this case. 2 for 1 also doesn’t help with the last min short garbage turn that needs covering. I believe DL might be leading the pack at 530 or 545 but there are others at 5. DL might even be calendar but it is still an average. What do you have right now? It would be helpful if you had a min calendar day to go with that but I’m not sure if anyone has both?
DL has 5:15. |
Originally Posted by Flaps1check
(Post 3502741)
DL has 5:15.
Ok. Do you know if it’s calendar or duty? There’s issues with both. To me their about equal. |
Originally Posted by Flaps1check
(Post 3502741)
DL has 5:15.
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Originally Posted by Av8rRr
(Post 3502799)
And we’ve seen those schedules. Can’t wait for that here. 4 day worth 21 hours.
That’s not what you need to worry about with the ADG. It’s more like the 3 calendar 2 duty period red eyes that will pay 10.5. There’s not enough time for the 3.5 to 1 tafb rig to kick in on some of those. Like I mentioned there’s downside to both. |
Originally Posted by MeteorA113
(Post 3502022)
Outside looking in, there's a reason I left AAG. I found better elsewhere.
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