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Incentive Plan / Profit Sharing?
Does Alaska have an Incentive Plan or Profit Sharing? If so, what are the details and has it payed out?
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Performance Based Pay program, arbitrary moving goal posts set by the board and management every year so you don’t ever hit them all and get full profit sharing. Program historically averages 6-7% and isn’t considered 401k eligible
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Arbitrarily moving numbers around is why you got 5-6% annual pay share in 2020 and 2021 at a time when other airlines gave their pilots a profit share of $0.00
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Pays out in February. This year, as an FO, mine was approx. $10,000 and came out to $6,700ish after taxes. Paid for my LASIK and then some. We also get Operation Performance payouts 4x a year. Just got one a couple weeks ago for $250 before taxes. That one is based off on time percentage, reduce jetbridge contact with the airplane, etc...a whole airline contributes type of thing.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 3525389)
Arbitrarily moving numbers around is why you got 5-6% annual pay share in 2020 and 2021 at a time when other airlines gave their pilots a profit share of $0.00
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
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Call me a cynic, but could it be their strategy to massage the numbers to only pay 5-6% in the great years (when it should've been > 10%), and then in less profitable years, they come out smelling like a 🌹, by still paying out 5%, assisted by the bounty from the previous record years?
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 3525389)
Arbitrarily moving numbers around is why you got 5-6% annual pay share in 2020 and 2021 at a time when other airlines gave their pilots a profit share of $0.00
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The angry 18 is still angry. The “massaging” was changing the 70% of calculation as PROFIT from 2020 and changing it to favor the employees so they would get a payout by making it Covid recovery targets (which were met).
The great years AS paid higher than 5-6%. Starting in 2012, it has been 8.1%, 9.6, 10, 9.3, 8.73, 7.47, 6.69, 7.05, and for 2020 4.98% and 2021 6.23%. Both those years were at a time others got $0.00 New TA passed. UA and AA turned down their TAs and back to the table for them, who knows when TA2 comes for them. But could the angry 18 be happy? Could they recognize we are in a good shape and in some ways are industry leading now? No. Far better to continue looking at Delta and being angry for what they don’t have here. I suppose that’s one way to go through life. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 3525435)
The angry 18 is still angry. The “massaging” was changing the 70% of calculation as PROFIT from 2020 and changing it to favor the employees so they would get a payout by making it Covid recovery targets (which were met).
The great years AS paid higher than 5-6%. Starting in 2012, it has been 8.1%, 9.6, 10, 9.3, 8.73, 7.47, 6.69, 7.05, and for 2020 4.98% and 2021 6.23%. Both those years were at a time others got $0.00 New TA passed. UA and AA turned down their TAs and back to the table for them, who knows when TA2 comes for them. But could the angry 18 be happy? Could they recognize we are in a good shape and in some ways are industry leading now? No. Far better to continue looking at Delta and being angry for what they don’t have here. I suppose that’s one way to go through life. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 3525435)
The angry 18 is still angry. The “massaging” was changing the 70% of calculation as PROFIT from 2020 and changing it to favor the employees so they would get a payout by making it Covid recovery targets (which were met).
The great years AS paid higher than 5-6%. Starting in 2012, it has been 8.1%, 9.6, 10, 9.3, 8.73, 7.47, 6.69, 7.05, and for 2020 4.98% and 2021 6.23%. Both those years were at a time others got $0.00 New TA passed. UA and AA turned down their TAs and back to the table for them, who knows when TA2 comes for them. But could the angry 18 be happy? Could they recognize we are in a good shape and in some ways are industry leading now? No. Far better to continue looking at Delta and being angry for what they don’t have here. I suppose that’s one way to go through life. |
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