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Vancouver, WA
Any pilots that live in Vancouver, WA and commute to (SEA, SFO) or have PDX as their base? Do you guys take advantage of the no income tax and sales across the border? How is it like to live there? Any answers (lifestyle, weather, etc..) would be nice.
-Caris |
The weather north of the Columbia actually is not much different than that just south of it. Vancouver and its surroundings have some nice areas, generally less expensive than those on the Oregon side. The City of Roses (Portland) used to be a very beautiful city and nice place to visit and live but it’s lost a lot of its luster lately. Between homeless and drug sales, it’s probably better to live on the Wa side and avoid the state income tax.
from Oregon Public Broadcasting https://www.opb.org/article/2022/05/...tion-politics/ An excerpt: “We haven’t done everything right, but anybody who watched the trajectory of Portland, I think, realized that we earned a reputation as a community that was growing and thriving and was a magnet,” he said, speaking of the city’s recent history. Now, though, Blumenauer bikes through the city and sees piles of garbage and people unable to cope with their afflictions. He hears about sharply rising gun violence. His car’s catalytic converter, like many others, was ripped out by thieves. It’s not that people aren’t still working to make a better Portland, Blumenauer says, but “collectively I am concerned. Collectively it feels like it’s broken. Collectively it seems like we have challenges unlike any we have ever faced.” Portland agrees. |
Portland by far the worst city I've ever visited as far as homeless, trash, boarded up storefronts. I though downtown SFO was bad, but little match for Portland's downtown. Weather is pretty gray for many months during the winter. Summers seem pleasant. Just have to put up with a riot or two every 4-8 years.
If you need free needles, you'd be in heaven. |
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To the original poster,
If you're new to the area, I'd highly recommend spending at least one year on the Portland side of the river before settling on suburban living in Vancouver. Portland is such a unique place. I never considered myself a city person and always just assumed I'd live the suburban pilot life until I found Portland. It's hard to talk about Portland without the conversation spiraling into politics. So I'm not going to go there. I'll be simply say that Portland is a city with good bones. Portland is one of the few American cities that avoided getting cut to pieces by freeways in the 60s and 70s. The east side of Portland is what cities were before cars. It's an unbroken expanse quiet neighborhoods, well kept homes, parks, and clusters of businesses. I've lived here on Eastside for five years and I love it. Here's a video about Portland's history concerning freeway construction: https://youtu.be/ZeV31IcUkPM Here's a video about the kinds of neighborhoods you find in East Portland: https://youtu.be/MWsGBRdK2N0 And another consideration. There's going to be a toll for those going to and from Vancouver soon: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/local/tolls-new-i5-bridge-on-existing-bridge/283-d6afac73-6920-48a8-a6d3-6b7603edc201 |
Portland vs. Vancouver
Originally Posted by yallMahomies
(Post 3567844)
Any pilots that live in Vancouver, WA and commute to (SEA, SFO) or have PDX as their base? Do you guys take advantage of the no income tax and sales across the border? How is it like to live there? Any answers (lifestyle, weather, etc..) would be nice.
-Caris Over the last few years, downtown Vancouver has undergone somewhat of a renovation/rejuvenation. It is a nice place without many of the problems currently plaguing Portland. |
Originally Posted by LonesomeSky
(Post 3567911)
To the original poster,
If you're new to the area, I'd highly recommend spending at least one year on the Portland side of the river before settling on suburban living in Vancouver. Portland is such a unique place. I never considered myself a city person and always just assumed I'd live the suburban pilot life until I found Portland. It's hard to talk about Portland without the conversation spiraling into politics. So I'm not going to go there. I'll be simply say that Portland is a city with good bones. Portland is one of the few American cities that avoided getting cut to pieces by freeways in the 60s and 70s. The east side of Portland is what cities were before cars. It's an unbroken expanse quiet neighborhoods, well kept homes, parks, and clusters of businesses. I've lived here on Eastside for five years and I love it. Here's a video about Portland's history concerning freeway construction: https://youtu.be/ZeV31IcUkPM Here's a video about the kinds of neighborhoods you find in East Portland: https://youtu.be/MWsGBRdK2N0 And another consideration. There's going to be a toll for those going to and from Vancouver soon: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw...3-6b7603edc201 |
Originally Posted by LonesomeSky
(Post 3567911)
To the original poster,
If you're new to the area, I'd highly recommend spending at least one year on the Portland side of the river before settling on suburban living in Vancouver. Portland is such a unique place. I never considered myself a city person and always just assumed I'd live the suburban pilot life until I found Portland. It's hard to talk about Portland without the conversation spiraling into politics. So I'm not going to go there. I'll be simply say that Portland is a city with good bones. Portland is one of the few American cities that avoided getting cut to pieces by freeways in the 60s and 70s. The east side of Portland is what cities were before cars. It's an unbroken expanse quiet neighborhoods, well kept homes, parks, and clusters of businesses. I've lived here on Eastside for five years and I love it. Here's a video about Portland's history concerning freeway construction: https://youtu.be/ZeV31IcUkPM Here's a video about the kinds of neighborhoods you find in East Portland: https://youtu.be/MWsGBRdK2N0 And another consideration. There's going to be a toll for those going to and from Vancouver soon: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kgw...3-6b7603edc201 |
In today's day and age there are 3 cities I'd consider shells of their former selves... PDX,SFO, &SEA. And even a SFO/SEA non-pilot friends agree.
If only we could place our finger on the common denominator. |
It ain’t the Portland you remember…
https://i.ibb.co/rK9D6Mq/E3-DC8235-5...D7364-C5-A.jpg
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2023/01/portlands-101-homicides-in-2022-set-new-record-at-some-point-we-have-to-be-tired-of-burying-our-children.html It surpassed the record of 92 homicides set only the year before. Both 2022 and 2021 far exceeded the previous peak of 70 people who died in homicides in Portland in 1987. The unceasing toll has left a trail of grief, devastating families and frustrating police and city leaders. Their effort to stem the violence hasn’t slowed it, though Mayor Ted Wheeler and the city’s new public safety director said they have plans to do more this year. Who died in Portland homicides in 2022 Extra money the city provided last summer for grassroots groups to help interrupt the shootings was short-lived. A special police Focused Intervention Team quickly became overwhelmed, including having seven of its officers placed on standard leave at different times after they were involved in one fatal and two nonfatal shootings. |
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