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N4865G 07-11-2023 02:21 AM

Few basic Qs please
 
Good day,

Few basic questions I am trying to find the concise/definite answer for here.
Please do not call me lazy, I browsed through thousands of informative posts here, but there seem to be some ambiguity on those points.

1. What are the chances of getting SFO as a new hire these days
2. Is fleet/base bidding based on SSN or the actual age?
3. If unsuccessful, how long after Indoc can one expect to get a chance to bid and be awarded the base/fleet of choice (as above)
4. How long can one expect to sit home/airport on reserve? Are new joiners ever called out for the flight in first few months after IOE?
5. During reserve how many ‘undisturbed’ days off a month can one expect?
6. What is the report time at the airport on ’short call’ reserve? Or to put it another way how far from the airport can one live to make it on time?
7. How long does the whole training process take and do you get to fly home on your days off during that training?
8. Is the training paid per Year 1 rules (Minimum Guarantee) or is it less?
9. What is the realistic take home pay during the first and second year - ballpark figure
10. What is the scope of the Family medical/dental/eye insurance? Is one expected to pay his own part and if so how much?

Lastly, is it a good 'final destination' place for an experienced pilot with 12 years to go till retirement you reckon?

Appreciate your time taken to get my head clear on those points.

PNWFlyer 07-11-2023 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by N4865G (Post 3663934)
Good day,

Few basic questions I am trying to find the concise/definite answer for here.
Please do not call me lazy, I browsed through thousands of informative posts here, but there seem to be some ambiguity on those points.

1. What are the chances of getting SFO as a new hire these days
2. Is fleet/base bidding based on SSN or the actual age?
3. If unsuccessful, how long after Indoc can one expect to get a chance to bid and be awarded the base/fleet of choice (as above)
4. How long can one expect to sit home/airport on reserve? Are new joiners ever called out for the flight in first few months after IOE?
5. During reserve how many ‘undisturbed’ days off a month can one expect?
6. What is the report time at the airport on ’short call’ reserve? Or to put it another way how far from the airport can one live to make it on time?
7. How long does the whole training process take and do you get to fly home on your days off during that training?
8. Is the training paid per Year 1 rules (Minimum Guarantee) or is it less?
9. What is the realistic take home pay during the first and second year - ballpark figure
10. What is the scope of the Family medical/dental/eye insurance? Is one expected to pay his own part and if so how much?

Lastly, is it a good 'final destination' place for an experienced pilot with 12 years to go till retirement you reckon?

Appreciate your time taken to get my head clear on those points.

1. SFO is the Junior base
2. age
3. varies. No way to predict it.
4. most new hires are not on reserve for very ling. A few months. yes, you get called. That’s why they hired you and put you on reserve.
5. What do you consider an undisturbed day? On reserve you have 12-13 days off. As a line holder it varies. But if you do an all nighter turn at leaves at 11pm and gets back at 9 the next morning you are gone 10 hours but the computer says you were gone 2 days.
6 2.5 hours is short call. 14 for long call.
7. I think it’s 2 months. Can’t remember. Yes you can fly home on days off if you want. It’s your day off.
8. can’t remember the exact number but it’s not less.
9. I have no idea. There are so many variables.
10. Another super complicated question. I do t use the companies issuance. I am on my wife’s and have TriCare as secondary since I am retired military.

Jetlikespeed 07-11-2023 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3663994)
1. SFO is the Junior base
2. age
3. varies. No way to predict it.
4. most new hires are not on reserve for very ling. A few months. yes, you get called. That’s why they hired you and put you on reserve.
5. What do you consider an undisturbed day? On reserve you have 12-13 days off. As a line holder it varies. But if you do an all nighter turn at leaves at 11pm and gets back at 9 the next morning you are gone 10 hours but the computer says you were gone 2 days.
6 2.5 hours is short call. 14 for long call.
7. I think it’s 2 months. Can’t remember. Yes you can fly home on days off if you want. It’s your day off.
8. can’t remember the exact number but it’s not less.
9. I have no idea. There are so many variables.
10. Another super complicated question. I do t use the companies issuance. I am on my wife’s and have TriCare as secondary since I am retired military.


training pay is your hourly rate at 85 credits

PNWFlyer 07-11-2023 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by N4865G (Post 3663934)

Lastly, is it a good 'final destination' place for an experienced pilot with 12 years to go till retirement you reckon?

Appreciate your time taken to get my head clear on those points.

forgot to answer your last question because it wasn’t numbered.

Any experienced pilot should know there is no way to answer that question. You never know if it was a good ride or not until it is over.

also for 9. Your take home pay ballpark is typically your hourly rate times 1000.

N4865G 07-11-2023 08:36 AM

Thank you very much. All clear now.

Mitchell Gant 07-11-2023 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3664062)
forgot to answer your last question because it wasn’t numbered.

Any experienced pilot should know there is no way to answer that question. You never know if it was a good ride or not until it is over.

also for 9. Your take home pay ballpark is typically your hourly rate times 1000.

I wish times a 1000! Before Taxes times 100, after taxes and deductions times 65.

PNWFlyer 07-11-2023 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Mitchell Gant (Post 3664238)
I wish times a 1000! Before Taxes times 100, after taxes and deductions times 65.

might want to check your math. First year pay is $100. 100x100= 10,000. Times 65 is $6,500. I am pretty sure a fist year FO makes more than $6,500 a year. Now if you multiply by 1000 you get a more reasonable number.

Also someone making $100k a year does not have an effective tax rate of 35%.

Mitchell Gant 07-11-2023 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3664250)
might want to check your math. First year pay is $100. 100x100= 10,000. Times 65 is $6,500. I am pretty sure a fist year FO makes more than $6,500 a year. Now if you multiply by 1000 you get a more reasonable number.

Also someone making $100k a year does not have an effective tax rate of 35%.

Sorry figured they were looking for a monthly figure. Besides the fact, if you’re living in base (sea, pdx, lax or sfo) with all the federal and/or state taxes plus medical deductions, yea your take home is probably 65% gross.

hydrostream 07-12-2023 08:58 AM

Close. I’m in Washington and my net is 70% of my gross.

Mitchell Gant 07-12-2023 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by hydrostream (Post 3664678)
Close. I’m in Washington and my net is 70% of my gross.

Nice not having to pay state income tax


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