Originally Posted by WindWalker999 (Post 3897195)

Would be a wildly profitable route. For those of us in Hawaii with family in Guam those flights are ridiculously expensive and usually full. United’s customer service in Guam has historically been pretty hit-or-miss, and have always wondered why we don’t hit this route with some competition (seriously, $50 less a ticket and have the gate agents actually smile, and it would be a clean-sweep for HA/AK).

Have wondered for years why we don’t do it. Always been some BS-sounding rumors floating around about a back-room deal between a long-past CEO of HA and Continental / Air Micronesia (which route was subsumed by United into the current flight).

Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 3898279)

With a connection there, you definetlely remember only NWA flew to Guam in the early 90s. They had a 727 for a brief period between Guam and Saipan, short lived. NWA otherwise only flew to Guam via NRT and NGO.
United attempted service mid 90s and was short lived also.
As someone alluded to here, there might be a different agreement between United and HA now the we are AAG.

Originally Posted by WindWalker999 (Post 3898692)

Yes. There was also an occasional HAL service there around that same time in the DC8. Also did not last long.

Now, is a different story. There is money there.

Originally Posted by WindWalker999 (Post 3898100)

He was brilliant. People just don’t give him credit for what he was actually brilliant at doing. Specifically, front-loading useless costs such as Amadeus (which is going right back to Sabre now, if I read correctly) and making route decisions based on the best-case “let’s not miss the boat” case of the central banks of both Japan and the USA….

​​​​​​…..and making the airline’s market cap attractive for a buyout due to forces “completely out of our control”, which was likely his goal the entire time.

Originally Posted by WindWalker999 (Post 3898692)

Yes. There was also an occasional HAL service there around that same time in the DC8. Also did not last long.

Now, is a different story. There is money there.

Originally Posted by Akamai (Post 3899083)

Northwest got its routes from HAL. They bought 25% of HAL for some routes during bankruptcy in 1990. They got SYD, and GUM/SPN to Japan. There were also a number of HAL pilots that went to NWA with the routes.