Agreed, any new hire would be a fool to sign up for that.

Thanks, now we have something to look forward to in 25 years.

The reality is that no matter how good it gets here, even if max scope, best NB pay, good schedules, there’s still a fair portion <5 yrs here who are young enough that will still leave for the big 3 because what they offer isn’t found here (various bases throughout country, wide body, greater retirements + movement).

Shocking……

Looking at the attrition list there were quite a few


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

?

Other than the two CAs that left, the non-retirement attrition was 5 yrs or less, with most being 2019 hires.

There were about a dozen FOs who left, including some senior to me. That seems like a lot. But I guess for the “stepping stone” of the majors it’s normal?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just an fyi.. would make more at ua at year 2 if things hold the way they are.. in our open vacancy bid there are about 50 777 slots unfilled that no one wants, they’ve been open for days. The most junior people on the list thay will be awarded them have currently been on property 4 days with 50ish unfilled meaning that down the road a handful in every class could be offered to new hire classes until filled. They will be on reserve for literally years upon years.. but if you live in sf that’s a pretty sweet deal.

First year pay is the same fleet wide but year 3 is 204 per hour with a 5% raise once profitability returns plus whatever increase would occur with a new contract. Food for thought.

With Australia and many other countries in lockdown, I would be hesitant to be #15000 on the seniority list.

Respectfully, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but pilots have been flying all over the world since this epidemic started...they still are. Lockdowns and all. Without having been vaccinated. Let's try to keep our depth and subdue the il-logic.

And let me guess, you probably believe that FedEx pilots die young from flying all night... but the beat cops, city garbage men, OTR truckers and waffle house fry cooks, ER staff, and other backside of the clock workers can make it through the hourglass just fine huh?

Anywho, let's use some logic here, United will retire more in one year than Alaska will in 7-8 years. Alaska has no growth planned outside of regional flying and United has yet to receive it's full allotment/complement of Max and XLR orders to grow domestic and international market share. #15000 will shortly become #10000.

All that being said, Alaska is a great company for people that love the PNW and hate their regional. It's also great for west coast lifers making the switch to civil aviation. I would be hesitant to be on the bottom of the AS list with nothing but the continued attrition at the junior level and slow road to load factor recovery. I don't have any much more to say about it than that. it not a bad job, but it isn't the "LEGACY" job many think it is. The slow negotiation doesn't help the situation any.