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skypilot35 11-12-2014 04:01 PM

Does Alaska Airlines have a scope clause? Just curious.

ForeverJunior 11-12-2014 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by skypilot35 (Post 1762566)
Does Alaska Airlines have a scope clause? Just curious.

That's a big NO.

skypilot35 11-12-2014 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by ForeverJunior (Post 1762568)
That's a big NO.

Any idea as to why or if that will be corrected?

ExperimentalAB 11-12-2014 05:42 PM

It won't be corrected until all new Alaska flying goes to the 175, ala SkyWest. Seriously, scope needs to be PRIORITY 1.

ForeverJunior 11-12-2014 05:54 PM

It won't be corrected until all the senior guys who say stuff like "scope is not worth the paper it's written on" retire. Maybe things will change as the pilot group gets younger. I think pilots coming from the regionals have a better understanding of scope than the pilots who have been on the property for 25+ years.

At the end of the day, we have to be willing to fight for it. There won't be a quick fix and contract negotiations will drag out for a long time. Do we have the patience? Can we stomach long, drawn-out negotiations for big gains? Or, will we roll over and accept the very first TA presented to us?

Anyway, I'm not trying to hijack the thread. Back to hiring, interviews, applications, career fairs, etc.

CassinAK 11-12-2014 05:54 PM

Alaska Air Hiring
 
There also needs to be a cultural change. Right now the senior pilots are much more concerned with merger protection and even more than that pension protection. Oh and the all mighty dollar... Which is why our top of scale is close to our peers but bottom of scale is not.

skypilot35 11-12-2014 06:39 PM

Thanks Gents.

ForeverJunior 11-12-2014 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by CassinAK (Post 1762632)
There also needs to be a cultural change. Right now the senior pilots are much more concerned with merger protection and even more than that pension protection. Oh and the all mighty dollar... Which is why our top of scale is close to our peers but bottom of scale is not.

Agreed! FO pay compared to CA pay is slightly less percentage-wise than it was before last year's contract.

Workin 11-12-2014 07:42 PM

2004 FO Pay Scale/2014 FO Pay Scale

0-1 - $52.00 Currently: 53.00
1-2 - $91.00 Currently: 84.00
2-3 - $111.00 Currently: 100.00
3-4 - $117.00 Currently: 110.00
4-5 - $120.00 Currently: 117.00
5-6 - $124.00 Currently: 120.00

2loud 11-12-2014 09:01 PM

67% of Alaskan Airways pilot group do not care for scope nor the person sitting next to him/her. To the new hires, welcome aboard and enjoy the honeymoon!


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