Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2087138)

I spoke with over a dozen new hires and when asked, a good majority of them said that they have apps out with the big legacy carriers and/or FedEx/UPS. Most seem to be happy at Alaskan but they definitely expressed their frustrations regarding our low pay and 401k. They may be bluffing and only time will tell. As for me, if I were less 40, I'd bail for greener pastures and never look back. No guts no glory.

Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 2090019)

Junior Capt on bid award at DAL is Nov 14' hire. Crazy!! Hiring 2000 by end of 17'. Alaska is currently a 10 year upgrade. Do the math.

Baja.

Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 2088344)

Reality is this: there are six major airlines in the country....4 haul people and 2 haul boxes.....They will all complete with each other for contract quality.
We have 4 jet nationals that operate Airbus aircraft..(emb190 for jetblue).Jetblue at the top and Frontier at the bottom with Spirit and Virgin in the middle. We have a travel agency with there own jets. And last but not least we have to Jet regionals that operate Boeing and Airbus aircraft.
Alaska as a mega regional has probably the best contract of the six airlines of similar size in its classification. I think Jetblue will ultimately outdo us as they are twice our size and are actually a national airline.

So choose wisely when you decide to stop your hunt for a career...

Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 2090136)

Who's the travel agency with its own airline?

Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 2090019)

Junior Capt on bid award at DAL is Nov 14' hire. Crazy!! Hiring 2000 by end of 17'. Alaska is currently a 10 year upgrade. Do the math.

Baja.

Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2090082)

Let's see, to an MD88 to NYC, as you said you would not want in another post???

And, too bad your info is wrong ... newest Captain at Alaska has been here 8 years, 6 months, and will likely hold any base they want this fall. Many chief pilots think it will soon come down to 5 years.

Also, Alaska is hiring a lot, too ... I have been here a little over 20 months, have 300+ pilots beneath me on the seniority list (I am around 80% seniority in the company), and I am at 50% seniority in base.

I did the math for you, Baja. :D

For those thinking about coming to Alaska, it is a great place to be (note, I did not say perfect, but even the almighty Delta Airlines isn't perfect ... :eek:).

For those of you who hate it here, work to make it better, or leave. Those who identify problems but don't suggest solutions are complainers, and no one wants to be around someone like that. I started here at 48 years old, so if you are younger than that, I challenge you to go to those greener pastures -- everyone is hiring, and as Baja says, you could be a captain at DAL in a year or two, probably even in SEA in the E-190.

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Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2090258)

Didn't you know man, 2000 by 2000 here at Alaskan! We have roughly 13% more pilots than we did over a decade ago. I can't wait until year 2000 roll around! When is Vision 2010 going to be implemented? Oh boy!
Enjoy Delta.



I applaud your enthusiasm of Alaskan, seriously I do. You have to admit that you see things from a different angle from where you are sitting. I'm guessing you have approximately 27 years of active duty service, retired as an O-5, and collecting roughly $5,000/mo. from Uncle Sam. You were probably in indoc during terminal leave, double dipping (I did). I'm guessing you flew eagles out of EDF and retired, making a dream transition to the airlines, and got based in ANC.That's pretty rough, my friend.:D It's as good as it gets. Congrats! I really hope that you can keep your euphoria to the end. I really mean that.
Now, let's talk some facts, shall we? Upgrade of 8.5 years to hold the "base of choice"? Really? Is the base clinic now offering medicinal weed?!?! Base of choice=ANC and it's hardly the base of choice. You do the math. Hint, refer to the latest seniority list.
5 year upgrades? Really? Is Kevin F. back as VP of Flight Oops? Do you believe everything that management tells you? They've been telling new hires for as long as I can remember that, "you all are going to upgrade in 5 years!", just up until hiring stopped and furloughs began.
In regards to your comment about complainers, yada yada yada...... No line pilot nor ALPO will ever change this place! Never say never, you say? Well, there's always an exception and this is it. I'd just wait until our next TA comes out and after it passes, you can come on here and thump your chest on how this pilot group "changed" this place for the better.
Growth? Growth in seat miles with bigger 737s is growth to the company not to pilots. We now have 13% more pilots on the seniority list than over a decade ago. That's not much of a growth by any standards. It is definitely better than a fork in the eye but nothing to be jumping for joy. Something to think about, my friend.