Gloves off... let's go!
04-09-2016, 12:55 PM
#11
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I think date of hire until 2007. Then a ratio with Alaska for the first half of Virgin. Then staple the bottom half. Then make a big fence, so if your Virgin you keep your seniority in SFO, Jfk and if your Alaska you keep your seniority in Sea, Pdx, Anc. LAX will have to be something special.
04-09-2016, 01:18 PM
#12
New boss = Old boss
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Ca B737
Posts: 2,762
Originally Posted by 2loud
This is all pure speculation and entertainment so let's hear it from ya'll men, women, and children alike. SLI-what about meeeee?!?!
From the junior folks here at Alaskan, here are some ideas and comments that I've been hearing on the line, so you Virgin folks, please chime in with your thoughts and ideas:
1) Seniority integration should start from 2007 hires.
2) The "I got mine crowd" wants DOH.
3) Virgin would have died anyways so let's go with a staple.
4) We acquired them so it's really not a merger.
5) 4 Year college isn't required at Virgin so they should be stapled since most of them could not have gotten hired at Alaskan.
6) No Alaskan FO ever left for Virgin. Btw, it's not true! After Kasher, at least two FOs left and upgraded to CA in less than 2 years.
7) I've paid my dues, got a 4 year degree, worked my way up through the regionals, and waited to get hired by Alaskan Airways. I could have gone to Virgin for the quick upgrade but I held out for Alaskan. It's not fair that I've paid my dues and waited for Alaskan only to get bumped by Virgin pilots.
8) Any Virgin pilots hired after 2xxx should be integrated x to x ratio. Or more like, 2xxx=one's year hired. What about meeeeeee?!?!
All of these opinions have some validity, some more than others, but they are just that...opinions and we all know the saying, "everyone has an ***hole and an opinion".
Like I've said in a previous post, none of us asked for this. It is just a business decision and the employees always get to deal with the pain. It's going to get ugly before it gets better. Ya'll can hide behind the keyboard as always but try and keep it somewhat civil. Gloves off....let's go!
From the junior folks here at Alaskan, here are some ideas and comments that I've been hearing on the line, so you Virgin folks, please chime in with your thoughts and ideas:
1) Seniority integration should start from 2007 hires.
2) The "I got mine crowd" wants DOH.
3) Virgin would have died anyways so let's go with a staple.
4) We acquired them so it's really not a merger.
5) 4 Year college isn't required at Virgin so they should be stapled since most of them could not have gotten hired at Alaskan.
6) No Alaskan FO ever left for Virgin. Btw, it's not true! After Kasher, at least two FOs left and upgraded to CA in less than 2 years.
7) I've paid my dues, got a 4 year degree, worked my way up through the regionals, and waited to get hired by Alaskan Airways. I could have gone to Virgin for the quick upgrade but I held out for Alaskan. It's not fair that I've paid my dues and waited for Alaskan only to get bumped by Virgin pilots.
8) Any Virgin pilots hired after 2xxx should be integrated x to x ratio. Or more like, 2xxx=one's year hired. What about meeeeeee?!?!
All of these opinions have some validity, some more than others, but they are just that...opinions and we all know the saying, "everyone has an ***hole and an opinion".
Like I've said in a previous post, none of us asked for this. It is just a business decision and the employees always get to deal with the pain. It's going to get ugly before it gets better. Ya'll can hide behind the keyboard as always but try and keep it somewhat civil. Gloves off....let's go!
Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Why do you keep saying AlaskaN? When did Alaska insert an N in their name?
04-09-2016, 01:41 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,930
2loud you need to stop pretending you're a CEO. You're doing a terrible job at it and everyone wants you fired.
04-09-2016, 02:01 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
mike734,
You really do have a reading comprehension problem there buddy. I didn't realize the FAA can waive the "English Proficient" requirement. You are definitely a success story and I can see that the swim across the river was well worth it for you. I hope you feel better real soon. I hear menopause can be a painful time in your life. I'm guessing you have cajones envy by the looks of your avatar.
You really do have a reading comprehension problem there buddy. I didn't realize the FAA can waive the "English Proficient" requirement. You are definitely a success story and I can see that the swim across the river was well worth it for you. I hope you feel better real soon. I hear menopause can be a painful time in your life. I'm guessing you have cajones envy by the looks of your avatar.
04-09-2016, 02:03 PM
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Posts: 83
Don't feed the troll! It'll never leave!
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