What do you expect with new contract?
06-26-2017, 04:11 PM
#291
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Originally Posted by Packrat
You might be surprised at how well that line of propaganda works...especially on the senior guys who:
1. Lived through the B-scale.
2. Were happy with the 92%/no strike clause days.
Hopefully the junior guys who got Kasherstrated/furloughed have become a voting majority.
1. Lived through the B-scale.
2. Were happy with the 92%/no strike clause days.
Hopefully the junior guys who got Kasherstrated/furloughed have become a voting majority.
Last edited by Wynncore; 06-26-2017 at 04:35 PM.
06-26-2017, 08:43 PM
#292
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
I hope they have. I cannot speak directly for the VX pilots but from what I've noticed they are not in the slightest bit fooled by this stuff and will vote no without hesitation if this deal isn't up to snuff. Senior AS guys though might be a slightly different story based on your quote above...I hope not though.
I think you're right about the VX pilots! I hope we're all unified now
06-27-2017, 12:35 PM
#293
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Originally Posted by RJs2majors
I've been hired elsewhere and waiting for a class date. Your sarcasm will get you nowhere, smart***. You're correct on one thing, grass is much greener where I'm headed, at least that's what my friends tell me who are waiting for me.
For the sake of the great folks whom I've had the pleasure of working with here at Alaska, I wish nothing but the best for this pilot group. To JH, BT, and BM, thank you for showing your true colors. Being a Koolaid drinker for so long, I was once blind but now I see.
For the sake of the great folks whom I've had the pleasure of working with here at Alaska, I wish nothing but the best for this pilot group. To JH, BT, and BM, thank you for showing your true colors. Being a Koolaid drinker for so long, I was once blind but now I see.
06-28-2017, 05:40 PM
#295
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
I hope they have. I cannot speak directly for the VX pilots but from what I've noticed they are not in the slightest bit fooled by this stuff and will vote no without hesitation if this deal isn't up to snuff. Senior AS guys though might be a slightly different story based on your quote above...I hope not though.
06-28-2017, 06:10 PM
#296
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
Don't mistake a young airline for having just young pilots. There are lots of very experienced, very knowledgable and very proud pilots at VX. We are all wearing lanyards and not accepting a half ass JCBA, I haven't flown with anyone yet that has said that they don't expect and deserve industry standard or better on everything.
Oh wait, arbitration......right.
06-29-2017, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
Don't mistake a young airline for having just young pilots. There are lots of very experienced, very knowledgable and very proud pilots at VX. We are all wearing lanyards and not accepting a half ass JCBA, I haven't flown with anyone yet that has said that they don't expect and deserve industry standard or better on everything.
06-29-2017, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
Absolutely not, I wasn't insinuating that younger pilots predominately staff VX, apologies if it came across that way. Its great to see the solidarity and everyone coming together for a common cause. I think that "total compensation" nonsense from TK was the last straw for a lot of people.
06-29-2017, 08:55 AM
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+1
The total compensation is particularly insulting...it's like they think we are stupid enough to compare our total compensation to their hourly wage only. Will not fall for the misdirection while they try on their personalized mariners jerseys while we grunt away for way too little. Guess what management.. when you compare our total compensation to their total compensation, we are still at the bottom of the list for doing the same job, in fact further behind when comparing it that way.
The total compensation is particularly insulting...it's like they think we are stupid enough to compare our total compensation to their hourly wage only. Will not fall for the misdirection while they try on their personalized mariners jerseys while we grunt away for way too little. Guess what management.. when you compare our total compensation to their total compensation, we are still at the bottom of the list for doing the same job, in fact further behind when comparing it that way.
Originally Posted by Jetlife
I didn't make it look like I was attacking you, just more stating that as a group, these pilots are ready for battle, ready to get what everyone deserves. I know Alaska has been around a long time, it is a legacy, and it is hard to get hired on to, I get that, but when you look at both Virgin and Alaska, the pilot groups are more similar than some Alaska pilots want to admit. Most Alaska pilots have been super cool but I have been snubbed in the terminal twice now. We are not B scale, we are not regional pilots. We want what we all deserve and I haven't flown or talked to a VX pilot yet that feels any differently.
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