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Klsytakesit 01-29-2017 02:59 PM

This is not the sunshine and pixie fairy dust unicorn discussion Reggie..

YXnot 01-30-2017 02:01 PM

The AA guys say they like their new PBS....but they have been in an extended honeymoon with management so that is not suprising. Is it?

snackysmores 01-31-2017 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by IamAlaska (Post 2287099)
Keep us in loop on how PBS implementation goes at Horizon.

We probably won't survive long enough to implement it. The place is imploding. Management is violating our contract left and right, we've already threatened a status quo strike, FOs are bailing in droves. All the E175s are probably going to skywest, except for 1 so they can activate our concessionary contract starting May 1st.

I foresee you guys having to pick up a lot more Horizon routes to cover your own feed in the short future.

Boeing314 01-31-2017 09:55 AM

What PBS vendor is Alaska considering?

FlyingOkra 02-02-2017 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by YXnot (Post 2291396)
The AA guys say they like their new PBS....but they have been in an extended honeymoon with management so that is not suprising. Is it?

You sure about that or did I miss the sarcasm?

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IamAlaska 02-04-2017 12:36 AM

I sure hope our new scheduling software (Crew Access) isn't an indication of what PBS would be like. 4 years and $28 Million? What use to require 2 steps now requires 3, 4 or 5. smh

YXnot 02-04-2017 11:36 AM


The two NY based guys I talked to, and who have been parallel bidding for several months, both said they liked how it is working for them. The aforementioned issues were not brought up and represent a serious flaw in a complex endeavor like implementing a new bid system. IIRC we had to re run last Decembers prefbid due to some minor preference tweaks that were not properly announced by the company or vendor. As far as what I can gather, the current trade system at AS, eMaestro, often crashes when trading begins. I don't know, maybe mgmt considers that a feature and not a bug. YMMV

stickpusher 02-09-2017 10:09 PM

AS pilots, you guys still bid manually (paper) vs. PBS due to peculiarities w/PBS not honoring seniority (stacking, or any other dorky terminology that pilots don't really understand). I hate PBS....does not follow seniority at times.

OCCP 02-10-2017 05:30 AM

I love PBS. Commutable trips with 16-18 days off per month and some control over what days I work, and I'm not senior.

jayme 02-10-2017 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 2298670)
I love PBS. Commutable trips with 16-18 days off per month and some control over what days I work, and I'm not senior.

You're confusing pairing construction with pairing assignment. PBS did not construct those high credit, commutable pairings. It just assigned them.


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