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Old 07-22-2017, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FreshWater View Post
Swa, surely you joke. No one sells themselves that cheaply no mo. The thought of ending my career in the right seat of a 72 makes me wince. Dal, ual, fdx or ups fo sho. If I were so inclined.
Wouldn't go to those either. I'd hang it up, last of 5 uniforms.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch rudder View Post
Ha... yes, so predictable. Like a true, bitter, ol' G4 guy. Just because you've been here "way too long to start over" is no excuse stay. If you're in jeopardy here, you should leave. SWA, maybe?
Another invitation to leave .

Hardly. Good company with great people, some of which are very close friends and 1 family member, but the SW ship sailed 20 years ago and my posts are not indicative of someone wanting to be there. Not interested in jerking gear for the rest of my career, being a 5 digit number there or anywhere else.

Staying here, still quite passionate about our company.

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Old 07-22-2017, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden View Post
Another invitation to leave .

Hardly. Good company with great people, some of which are very close friends and 1 family member, but the SW ship sailed 20 years ago and my posts are not indicative of someone wanting to be there. Not interested in jerking gear for the rest of my career, being a 5 digit number there or anywhere else.

Staying here, still quite passionate about our company.
Come on bro. We all stopped listening and checked the lastest seniority list when you said you've been here 10 years and you are unhappy.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hyde View Post
Come on bro. We all stopped listening and checked the lastest seniority list when you said you've been here 10 years and you are unhappy.
Unhappy?? Lol. My own bed every night with a shiny new contract, I won't be unhappy unless I'm standing in an another unemployment line. Hoping to avoid that, ergo this thread.

Never meant to **** on the parade, just concerned about the trends. Peace out.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden View Post
Ha...yes, so predictable. Like a true management disciple, wait for it....first rule: if logic fails, try CENSORSHIP! Second rule: "If you don't like it here, leave!"

Same textbook approaches were used against the guys that stuck their necks out trying to improve this place and secure the contract you now enjoy. Given your argument, we would still be topped out at the $68/hour we were at when I got here.

I'm aware of the company's policies, what is legal and what is not. I'm also aware of what is permissible and what is the purpose of this forum, which is the open exchange of opinions/ideas, not censorship because someone doesn't like the message. In case you're not aware, this thread referenced an incident being covered by the MEDIA. Perhaps you should censor them too. Your implied threats of get me fired won't cause me to lose any sleep. Knock yourself out.
Nah, I'm no management shill, and I'm not trying to get you fired. However I see no value in you airing dirty laundry in public. You practically quoted an internal FYI memo about this incident then went on to rant how in your opinion, our airline is unsafe. That's a pretty stupid thing to do if you want to keep having a company to work for. I'm no shill, but I love my job and I intend to stay here too. So let's not burn the house down trying to renovate it. Go back the the fb page where you usually do your complaining and we will be happy to discuss it with you there. Not here for the media and passengers. That's not censorship, it's common sense.

And for the record: I never take an unsafe airplane and my family absolutely flies Allegiant. All airlines have incidents. Some airlines incidents make the news more than others do. Some reporters just need something to write about. All of the big three legacy airlines have incidents every day too.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:20 AM
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The mx at G4 is worse than at other comparable airlines. Why is Tyler the only one that wants to admit this and why is everyone else acting like everything is fine. I'm not familiar with what happened in CVG, but it sounds like SOP for Allegiant mx: "put it on a number." They try to use paper work, often lying (ie they MEL terrain system when the TCAS is what is actually INOP), to fix everything, instead of actually fixing the plane. The similarities with Value Jet are disturbing. How many near misses does G4 need to have? Eventually something bad will happen.

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Old 07-23-2017, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Pen View Post
The mx at G4 is worse than at other comparable airlines. Why is Tyler the only one that wants to admit this and why is everyone else acting like everything is fine. I'm not familiar with what happened in CVG, but it sounds like SOP for Allegiant mx: "put it on a number." They try to use paper work, often lying (ie they MEL terrain system when the TCAS is what is actually INOP), to fix everything, instead of actually fixing the plane. The similarities with Value Jet are disturbing. How many near misses does G4 need to have? Eventually something bad will happen.

"I'm not overweight, but could I have a seat belt extender please?"
Hi Tyler. I like your other screen name.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam View Post
Go back the the fb page where you usually do your complaining and we will be happy to discuss it with you there.
"...we"? Who's "we"??

Censoring, threatening, now you speak for others?? If you're not management (you're suited for it), you should be concerned about your job. A lot of guys have been fired around here for things 'other airlines' would never have fired them for. Not sure how long you've been here, but one base lost 8 (1/3) of their captains in a span of a few years Do you see 'other airlines' firing their pilots for taking the safe approach by evacuating a cabin AS THEY WERE TRAINED? This was a common maintenance problem that one of OUR OWN was hung out to dry with and then armchair QB'd and callously fired for taking the appropriate action. It bothers me how selfishly we've forgotten that an injury to one is an injury to all.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Hi Tyler. I like your other screen name.
Insinuation being that I'm the only one that could possibly hold this opinion and therefor create other screen names to agree with myself? If that's the case, I guess I like your other one's too. ECAM? Apparently he speaks for others, maybe you're two of the same.

So much for dialogue and open discussion.

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I hope Maury is held criminally liable when a serious accident finally occurs. I hope our latest FAA audit is more than optics.
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To add to that, we won't likely get a contract any time soon. We are too far apart from the company to reach an agreement. I'm 99.9% sure it will take a strike to get a contract. Since they recently TA'd low hanging fruit in negotiations, I expect the company can drag this process out for at least another year or two.

If you come here, get your free type and move on as fast as you can. I have serious reservations about the long term prospects of Allegiant.
My my how quickly opinions change. Contract got your tongue?

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Old 07-23-2017, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno View Post
Hi Tyler. I like your other screen name.
Disco, still up to your old tricks? I have no idea who Tyler is. I don't work at Allegiant anymore, but I hope things go well for them as I know a lot of good people who still work there. But, nobody wins if there is a crash, and while not a sure thing, the odds of having a crash are higher with sub standard mx practices that are still going on at G4.

Keep your head in the sand though bro, by all means, reality is a tough sandwich to bite into.
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