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#131
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Position: AB
Posts: 292
MG in response to the TA, “This agreement will begin an exciting new chapter of growth for our inflight team and for the company as a whole.”
https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...l-on-contract/
https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...l-on-contract/
#132
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 6
I wouldn’t think the company would make large business decisions based off of securing future FA costs. I just thought it could possibly be an indicator to future plans (regardless of the TA) but it sounds like it he has said it before.
#135
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
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MG in response to the TA, “This agreement will begin an exciting new chapter of growth for our inflight team and for the company as a whole.”
https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...l-on-contract/
https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...l-on-contract/
#136
Sun Country’s contract has a pretty solid merger/acquisition/buyout clause. If both parties are not represented by the same union it defaults to the Allegheny/Mohawk LPP, which was updated in 2007. Basically an arbitration to merge seniority’s. Same BS that Alaska and VA are going through. There are always winners and losers when an arbitrator has your faith...
#139
Contract
Here you go...
a. If the pilots of both pre-merger carriers, (i.e., the Allegiant Pilots and the pilots of the other air carrier(s) involved in the merger), are all represented by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, there shall be a seniority integration of the Pilot groups in accordance with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Seniority Merger Policy (IBT Merger Policy) in effect as of the date of such merger or other date as the parties may agree upon. b. If the IBT Merger Policy is not in effect, then the Company shall ensure, as a condition precedent of any operational merger of the carriers, that provisions be included requiring that the surviving carrier shall provide for fair and equitable integration of the pre-merger Pilots’ seniority lists in accordance with the provisions of the McCaskill Bond Amendment, 49 U.S.C. §42112. c. If any of the Pilots at one or more of the merging carriers are not represented by the IBT, and the representational body(ies) of the Pilots do not agree to follow IBT Merger Policy, the provisions of the McCaskill Bond Amendment, 49 U.S.C. §42112, shall apply. d. The Company will accept such integrated seniority list pursuant to Section H.1.a-c above, including conditions and restrictions if such list and the conditions and restrictions comply with the following criteria: i. There shall be no "system flush" whereby an active pilot may displace any other active pilot from the latter’s Position; and, ii. Pilots on the furlough list as of the date the integrated seniority list takes effect may not bump/displace active Pilots as a result of the integration of the seniority list; and, iii. The integrated list does not cause or contribute to the incurring of back pay, increased costs associated with training Pilots in order to implement the integrated seniority lists, company paid moves, or payment of premiums for flying not actually performed. 2. Unless otherwise mutually agreed, integrated seniority list(s) shall not take effect until a Single Collective Bargaining Agreement (SCBA) covering the pre-transaction crewmember groups is in effect.
#140
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 909
Any merger would basically go down like the last several we have seen, per federal laws. You can’t write provisions into your contract to set up a hose-job for any potential merger partner. McCaskill-Bond prevails. The two sides try to arrive at an agreed-upon list, which they won’t, so it ends up going to an arbitration panel. The two sides present their case & the panel decides. You can pretty much count on relative position or close to it, with adjustments for situations like imbalances in widebodies or international routes. IOW if Allegiant merged with United, don’t be running out & buying youself a 777 manual.
The other important thing to keep in mind is that no seniority list award is going to re-order your own airline’s list. IOW you might be super senior but chose to remain an FO; they’re not gonna group the CA’s & FO’s separately & stick you down in the middle of your own list.
The other important thing to keep in mind is that no seniority list award is going to re-order your own airline’s list. IOW you might be super senior but chose to remain an FO; they’re not gonna group the CA’s & FO’s separately & stick you down in the middle of your own list.
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