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Old 02-13-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam View Post
What you don't seem to get (probably because of your limited experience in this industry), is that it's about RESPECT. Sure $1000 is just a token to us pilots, but it's the gesture. It's telling everyone we are valued team members. It's motivation.

Instead, we get middle fingers. No Trump bonus, and now a tiered profit sharing system that will most likely make it not even worth trying. This will certainly factor into my operational decisions going forward.

Also, $1000 may not be a lot to you, Mr big shot Flight Ops Management Guy, but to our FAs and low level HQ workers who slave away every day, it's a lot of money. Try to think about somebody other than yourself.
Well said ECAM! It would have been a token to pilots and would have meant a whole lot more to the other lower-paid employees. This new profit sharing system is a slap in the face to everyone, especially after the new tax laws and will affect my operational considerations as well. The Airbus is a very efficient aircraft...until it's not.
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr View Post
Regardless, I’m still struggling to understand why some people choose such a petty thing like not getting a $1000 bonus to carp about. This company has so many things that it needs to improve in order for us to continue to be solevent and competitive long term, yet some who can’t pass the marshmallow test (look it up) feel the need to run to the nearest keyboard to complain about not getting something that isn’t owned, wasn’t promised, constitutes a tiny amount of their compensation and, as our recent attrition numbers show, clearly isn’t the best use of those funds.
You're right, the company has many other things operationally that they need to invest in...but they haven't. They have stalled in the contractual CBA requirements regarding a suitable PBS system, our pay software is a complete joke and our training department is not exactly the shining beacon of the industry (not saying that those people in the training department aren't great guys, because they are...its who they have to answer to that is the problem).

I have yet to see clear and time sensitive solutions to these problems. And until I see them, then my operational considerations are going to reflect that. The company has decided that ambiguous metrics should be the sole criteria for your contractual profit sharing check. They are taking money out of your pocket by doing that. Remember that when you make your operational considerations.

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Old 02-13-2018, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wette460 View Post
You're right, the company has many other things operationally that they need to invest in...but they haven't. They have stalled in the contractual CBA requirements regarding a suitable PBS system, our pay software is a complete joke and our training department is not exactly the shining beacon of the industry (not saying that those people in the training department aren't great guys, because they are...its who they have to answer to that is the problem).

I have yet to see clear and time sensitive solutions to these problems. And until I see them, then my operational considerations are going to reflect that. The company has decided that ambiguous metrics should be the sole criteria for your contractual profit sharing check. They are taking money out of your pocket by doing that. Remember that when you make your operational considerations.

I agree with every single one of your points...more than you know.

That being said, cutting me a $1000 check that wasn’t promised and isn’t owed will not help...one bit.

My issue is with people biatching about not getting what has been referring to on this very thread as a “meaningless,” arbitrary and unearned bonus. Someone said it was about “respect.” Please! Tell me that these same people wouldn’t be complaining about the disrespectful nature of a measly grand as a tax cut bonus.

It seems as if ecam, et all, are just pulling things out of their ass to biatch about. It’s tiring and I hate working with miserable people.

For those of you saying that the FAs, etc., coulld use the money; I don’t disagree...but the last time I checked, these were the AIRLINE PILOT Central forums...don’t try to change the subject when you find yourself backed into the corner.
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