Swift Air/Allegiant hook up
09-09-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam
A merger would trigger a referendum anyhow. Now would actually be a terrible time to screw with our representation.
This is the most likely outcome IMO. UAL seems best poised to absorb us and has been open about trying to get lots of used busses. We shall see.
This is the most likely outcome IMO. UAL seems best poised to absorb us and has been open about trying to get lots of used busses. We shall see.
09-09-2018, 07:52 AM
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It just seems more plausible than any one else buying us. Delta is too good for us. AA doesn’t even know we exist. UAL seems to be looking for an acquisition and needs more airbi. Maybe spirit or indigo but that seems like a long shot to me. But hey this is the internet anyone can say what they want and people can believe it or ignore it.
09-09-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam
The problem is that Allegiant Travel Co has a market cap a shade over $2 billion. An acquirer would have to offer a premium above that. That's a lot of bread for about 85 worn out airbi, and 13 brand new ones that aren't paid off yet.
Delta 320: 23 years
319: 16.5 years
United 320: 20.2 years
319: 17.4 years
Allegiant 320: 12.1 years
319: 13.1 years
Just providing a little perspective.
09-09-2018, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dutch rudder
Worn out? I hear this a lot. We have some oldies, but our average Airbus fleet age significantly younger than United, Delta, and American Airbi. Even younger than JetBlue 320's and Frontier 319's... not by much though.
Delta 320: 23 years
319: 16.5 years
United 320: 20.2 years
319: 17.4 years
Allegiant 320: 12.1 years
319: 13.1 years
Just providing a little perspective.
Delta 320: 23 years
319: 16.5 years
United 320: 20.2 years
319: 17.4 years
Allegiant 320: 12.1 years
319: 13.1 years
Just providing a little perspective.
09-09-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
Now would actually be a terrible time to screw with our representation.
Our EXCO is fine. Our Local and national leadership are wholly inadequate.
09-09-2018, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam
It just seems more plausible than any one else buying us. Delta is too good for us. AA doesn’t even know we exist. UAL seems to be looking for an acquisition and needs more airbi. Maybe spirit or indigo but that seems like a long shot to me. But hey this is the internet anyone can say what they want and people can believe it or ignore it.
AS/HA/G4? I've heard that one as well...
09-09-2018, 07:39 PM
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Personally, I don't think a Sun Country hook up is out of the question. We now have ownership with very, very deep pockets, a former Allegiant executive at the helm, and the whole SY operation is being aggressively transformed into an ULCC model. Aggressive to the point that it makes our entire employee group wonder why... What is at the end of this timeline they're on?
Apollo Investment Group has $7 billion in assets. Frankly, as we stand now, we are SMALL potatoes for this wealthy investment group. There is more to the story on why they bought us. We're the first airline they've ever owned, and I don't think we're going to be the last. I wouldn't be surprised to see them buy another ULCC, just to merge us, and quickly create a rather large, competitive company.
Apollo Investment Group has $7 billion in assets. Frankly, as we stand now, we are SMALL potatoes for this wealthy investment group. There is more to the story on why they bought us. We're the first airline they've ever owned, and I don't think we're going to be the last. I wouldn't be surprised to see them buy another ULCC, just to merge us, and quickly create a rather large, competitive company.
09-09-2018, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LoFly
I agree. UA wants a low cost market share. I think buying NK or F9 would be too risky, we are the right size and have plenty of experience. On top of some good used ABs and capable pilots... but it could all just be some very dreamy thinking of me.
AS/HA/G4? I've heard that one as well...
AS/HA/G4? I've heard that one as well...
09-10-2018, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Popeye0537
Blahahahaha what are you drinking, get me some. United wants you like Delta wanted Comair.
Delta wanted Comair to destroy us. We were a competitor, not a partner.
More than 75% of passengers who flew into CVG on a CMR plane, left CVG on a Comair plane.
We were in talks to buy Spirit when DAL bought us. Mind you, Spirit was just a fledgling airline back in the late 90s. We would have become a big competitor to them. So they destroyed us.
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