Swift Air/Allegiant hook up
09-11-2018, 09:45 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by wilco811
The 120 is more believable than the 330 rumor but we don’t have the space to put them. They’re talking about tearing down a parking lot at VPS to make a new terminal/ramp space for more jets but that’s only a few more planes. Unless we open like 20 new bases...
09-12-2018, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam
Nice first post. 
Delta wanted Comair to destroy us. We were a competitor, not a partner.
More than 75% of passengers who flew into CVG on a CMR plane, left CVG on a Comair plane.
We were in talks to buy Spirit when DAL bought us. Mind you, Spirit was just a fledgling airline back in the late 90s. We would have become a big competitor to them. So they destroyed us.
Delta wanted Comair to destroy us. We were a competitor, not a partner.
More than 75% of passengers who flew into CVG on a CMR plane, left CVG on a Comair plane.
We were in talks to buy Spirit when DAL bought us. Mind you, Spirit was just a fledgling airline back in the late 90s. We would have become a big competitor to them. So they destroyed us.
At the time that the Comair Pilots went on strike in 2001, which I supported by the way, Delta was heavily dependent on only two commuters. Comair and ASA. After the strike Delta decided to diversify their regional partner portfolio so they couldn’t be hurt by a strike as badly as the Comair strike hurt them. You got whipsawed by all the lower paying RJ operators. It sucked. I always liked Comair. That is, until JC Lawson turned around and kicked us all in the junk, when we ended up on furlough, after we had supported all of you during your strike. He was willing to not kick us in the junk if Delta gave Comair all the 70(-76...I can’t remember if the CRJ900’s were a thing yet) that they had on order, but Delta told him to pound sand, so he told us to pound sand.
See, I can be a grudge carrying, ****ed off a-hole and blame everyone else for my plight too. But life is too short.
Are you JC? What ever happened to him? I think his militancy is a big part of the reason Comair was shrunk, and eventually shut down. But if you insist, you can blame it on how awesome you were and the threat you posed to Delta as a competitor.
09-12-2018, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dutch rudder
Yup, I have. Like I said, we have some oldies. However, our oldest airbus is still younger than the average Delta 320.
I was simply adding context to your statement of "85 worn out airbi." If ours are worn out, then most others are worn out as well.
I was simply adding context to your statement of "85 worn out airbi." If ours are worn out, then most others are worn out as well.
09-12-2018, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LoFly
Ya, the 120 frames rumor is like the A330 plan I mean, seriously, where are we going to fly another 40 319/320s? Canada? Nah. Mexico/Central America? Other ULCCs are a couple of years ahead of us. I'd love to see that many planes on property but I think 100 is where Company will sit down and wait...
I mean, seriously, where are we going to fly another 40 319/320s? Canada? Nah. Mexico/Central America? Other ULCCs are a couple of years ahead of us. I'd love to see that many planes on property but I think 100 is where Company will sit down and wait...
09-12-2018, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
That sounds like a revisionist history to help you maintain your bitterness.
At the time that the Comair Pilots went on strike in 2001, which I supported by the way, Delta was heavily dependent on only two commuters. Comair and ASA. After the strike Delta decided to diversify their regional partner portfolio so they couldn’t be hurt by a strike as badly as the Comair strike hurt them. You got whipsawed by all the lower paying RJ operators. It sucked. I always liked Comair. That is, until JC Lawson turned around and kicked us all in the junk, when we ended up on furlough, after we had supported all of you during your strike. He was willing to not kick us in the junk if Delta gave Comair all the 70(-76...I can’t remember if the CRJ900’s were a thing yet) that they had on order, but Delta told him to pound sand, so he told us to pound sand.
See, I can be a grudge carrying, ****ed off a-hole and blame everyone else for my plight too. But life is too short.
Are you JC? What ever happened to him? I think his militancy is a big part of the reason Comair was shrunk, and eventually shut down. But if you insist, you can blame it on how awesome you were and the threat you posed to Delta as a competitor.
At the time that the Comair Pilots went on strike in 2001, which I supported by the way, Delta was heavily dependent on only two commuters. Comair and ASA. After the strike Delta decided to diversify their regional partner portfolio so they couldn’t be hurt by a strike as badly as the Comair strike hurt them. You got whipsawed by all the lower paying RJ operators. It sucked. I always liked Comair. That is, until JC Lawson turned around and kicked us all in the junk, when we ended up on furlough, after we had supported all of you during your strike. He was willing to not kick us in the junk if Delta gave Comair all the 70(-76...I can’t remember if the CRJ900’s were a thing yet) that they had on order, but Delta told him to pound sand, so he told us to pound sand.
See, I can be a grudge carrying, ****ed off a-hole and blame everyone else for my plight too. But life is too short.
Are you JC? What ever happened to him? I think his militancy is a big part of the reason Comair was shrunk, and eventually shut down. But if you insist, you can blame it on how awesome you were and the threat you posed to Delta as a competitor.
What you left out is that Comair management (controlled by Delta) came to our MEC and told them they didn't want to hire the Delta furloughees because they didn't want to pay to train pilots who were guaranteed to only be around a year or two. So management told us that if we wanted them hired we had to give something up to level the cost of training them. So in their infinitesimal wisdom, our MEC asked DALPA for concessions on scope. I personally thought it was a terrible idea, but that's what they did. so you guys continue to take that out on individual pilots a decade later. Get over it.
As a side note, apparently ASA management (also controlled by Delta) told their MEC that they would hire the furloughees because they just needed meat in the seats. So it was just a big game by Delta to hurt us and decrease our contract post strike. And you guys fell for it hook line and sinker by doing managements dirty work for them. Leo Mullin was a master at playing the sides against each other wasn't he.
09-13-2018, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam
JC retired.
What you left out is that Comair management (controlled by Delta) came to our MEC and told them they didn't want to hire the Delta furloughees because they didn't want to pay to train pilots who were guaranteed to only be around a year or two. So management told us that if we wanted them hired we had to give something up to level the cost of training them. So in their infinitesimal wisdom, our MEC asked DALPA for concessions on scope. I personally thought it was a terrible idea, but that's what they did. so you guys continue to take that out on individual pilots a decade later. Get over it.
As a side note, apparently ASA management (also controlled by Delta) told their MEC that they would hire the furloughees because they just needed meat in the seats. So it was just a big game by Delta to hurt us and decrease our contract post strike. And you guys fell for it hook line and sinker by doing managements dirty work for them. Leo Mullin was a master at playing the sides against each other wasn't he.
What you left out is that Comair management (controlled by Delta) came to our MEC and told them they didn't want to hire the Delta furloughees because they didn't want to pay to train pilots who were guaranteed to only be around a year or two. So management told us that if we wanted them hired we had to give something up to level the cost of training them. So in their infinitesimal wisdom, our MEC asked DALPA for concessions on scope. I personally thought it was a terrible idea, but that's what they did. so you guys continue to take that out on individual pilots a decade later. Get over it.
As a side note, apparently ASA management (also controlled by Delta) told their MEC that they would hire the furloughees because they just needed meat in the seats. So it was just a big game by Delta to hurt us and decrease our contract post strike. And you guys fell for it hook line and sinker by doing managements dirty work for them. Leo Mullin was a master at playing the sides against each other wasn't he.
I haven’t and won’t ever take anything out on an individual Comair pilot, because by the time I returned from furlough, I was open minded enough to know that some hadn’t even been around when all that stuff went down. And those that were, most likely didn’t have anything to do with the decision making anyway.
09-13-2018, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
Alright, I had no idea that Comair Management was behind the resistance. I was wrong. I Apologize.
I haven’t and won’t ever take anything out on an individual Comair pilot, because by the time I returned from furlough, I was open minded enough to know that some hadn’t even been around when all that stuff went down. And those that were, most likely didn’t have anything to do with the decision making anyway.
I haven’t and won’t ever take anything out on an individual Comair pilot, because by the time I returned from furlough, I was open minded enough to know that some hadn’t even been around when all that stuff went down. And those that were, most likely didn’t have anything to do with the decision making anyway.
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