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Cefiro 12-27-2019 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Liberty Pilot (Post 2944241)
At the risk of sounding naive (which I greatly am) I am wondering what chance if any would I have of being competitive at 3.5k TT with 1.5k TPIC with zero 121 time and I also do not have my ATP. Would having the ATP-CTP course complete be enough or would I need to complete the check ride on my own and then get some experience or a type post check ride to be remotely competitive. TIA

If you want to go part 121, I’d consider making the leap to a regional. Get a free ATP and they teach you all the 121 regs.

livetofly2123 12-27-2019 09:47 AM

Would love to come to Allegiant but I am under the impression no classes for march or later? I cant leave my current obligation til early march. 3800 total time 1200 jet pic

skydisaster 12-27-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by livetofly2123 (Post 2945885)
Would love to come to Allegiant but I am under the impression no classes for march or later? I cant leave my current obligation til early march. 3800 total time 1200 jet pic



There will be more at some point next year. They just haven’t announced them yet.


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KIGECA97531 12-28-2019 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by livetofly2123 (Post 2945885)
Would love to come to Allegiant but I am under the impression no classes for march or later? I cant leave my current obligation til early march. 3800 total time 1200 jet pic

They have started that several classes in fall of 2020 are likely.

IAFDOF 01-15-2020 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by KIGECA97531 (Post 2946390)
They have started that several classes in fall of 2020 are likely.

I have an interview next month. Are they really not hiring for classes earlier than fall right now?

skydisaster 01-15-2020 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 2957539)
I have an interview next month. Are they really not hiring for classes earlier than fall right now?



That was last weeks plan. Standby for this weeks plan. I suspect if they are still interviewing, they are planning on classes sooner than that, but they don’t tell us that.


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LoFly 01-15-2020 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by skydisaster (Post 2957547)
... but they don’t tell us that.

Because every time they share with us any info that is supposed to stay internal, some genius goes ahead and writes it up here for the world to know few minutes later.
It's actually embarrassing.

DiamondDriver 01-15-2020 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by skydisaster (Post 2957547)
That was last weeks plan. Standby for this weeks plan. I suspect if they are still interviewing, they are planning on classes sooner than that, but they don’t tell us that.


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they are interviewing right now for slots in both Feb 3rd and the late Feb class.

more classes are planned for this year but the dates are not finalized.

KIGECA97531 01-16-2020 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by LoFly (Post 2957578)
Because every time they share with us any info that is supposed to stay internal, some genius goes ahead and writes it up here for the world to know few minutes later.
It's actually embarrassing.

This.

Let's be smart. When you post stuff that's clearly marked "internal only", don't ***** when they stop telling us stuff.

ramalama 01-16-2020 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by KIGECA97531 (Post 2958012)
This.

Let's be smart. When you post stuff that's clearly marked "internal only", don't ***** when they stop telling us stuff.

They ain't no dummies, they KNOW whatever they tell employees will get publicly dispersed. It's just a feel good tactic.

tom11011 01-17-2020 09:58 AM

As of yesterday, it looks like 19 openings left for the February 24th class.

Losamigos 01-17-2020 01:04 PM

I see they have late Feb. available for new hire. Is anybody able to do some digging see if any March/April/May classes may be available?

tom11011 01-17-2020 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Losamigos (Post 2958930)
I see they have late Feb. available for new hire. Is anybody able to do some digging see if any March/April/May classes may be available?

We received an update yesterday, right now just Feb 24 was the last class with openings. I thought I read somewhere hiring was projected again for later in the year but can't find where. In any event, things just kind of happen around here when they happen so its entirely possible we could have unexpected hiring throughout the year.

LoFly 01-17-2020 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Losamigos (Post 2958930)
I see they have late Feb. available for new hire. Is anybody able to do some digging see if any March/April/May classes may be available?

I think there will be, we got a few of those ex-Avianca Brasil A320s ready for induction and the last new hire classes aren't enough.
They keep talking about 600+ routes to be opened, that means we need people.
Also: a class of 22 upgrades has just been scheduled for the beginning of March and another smaller one will be following in April... we don't have the capacity to push through so many at the same time so there has to be a break, but again, we need pilots.

VidNan 02-07-2020 05:36 AM

Commuting
 
Hi guys, I know commuting has been addressed on this forum but just want to see what you think as it pertains to my situation. Currently living in Maryland and looking at moving on from my regional and into one of the LCC/ULCC. I like the idea of Allegiant as it is only day duties but I wont be able to move to a base for a number of years (due wife's career). Is it feasible to commute from MD to say PIT, ABE or AVL and still have some sort of QOL? Looking on Allegiant's website it looks like they only fly BWI to ABE.
Would you say stay or jump ship and get ahead on seniority now?

Thanks again

N1sync 02-07-2020 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by VidNan (Post 2972519)
Hi guys, I know commuting has been addressed on this forum but just want to see what you think as it pertains to my situation. Currently living in Maryland and looking at moving on from my regional and into one of the LCC/ULCC. I like the idea of Allegiant as it is only day duties but I wont be able to move to a base for a number of years (due wife's career). Is it feasible to commute from MD to say PIT, ABE or AVL and still have some sort of QOL? Looking on Allegiant's website it looks like they only fly BWI to ABE.
Would you say stay or jump ship and get ahead on seniority now?

Thanks again

You could do that if you really wanted to and your seniority would probably be pretty decent in ABE or PIT after 6-12 months but... you’re gonna have a lot of single days off regardless of seniority and unless you want to come here specifically for another base that you would move to a few years down the road, I would go to spirit since they’ve got a rumored BWI base opening.

also, our management is ‘integrity challenged’ and they won’t treat you like the professional you are. You will most likely be treated with much more respect at ANY other airline, including your regional.

We (the pilots) would LOVE to have you and many people are able to make the commute work however, if you come here don’t complain on this forum or our closed group about your schedule or lack of commutability, those who do are incredibly annoying.

KC135 02-07-2020 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by VidNan (Post 2972519)
Hi guys, I know commuting has been addressed on this forum but just want to see what you think as it pertains to my situation. Currently living in Maryland and looking at moving on from my regional and into one of the LCC/ULCC. I like the idea of Allegiant as it is only day duties but I wont be able to move to a base for a number of years (due wife's career). Is it feasible to commute from MD to say PIT, ABE or AVL and still have some sort of QOL? Looking on Allegiant's website it looks like they only fly BWI to ABE.
Would you say stay or jump ship and get ahead on seniority now?

Thanks again

Reserve in those smaller bases you mentioned has some of the best QOL in the industry IMO but you'd be flipping it to the worst by not living in base. A lot of my 12 off reserve schedules only have a couple blocks of 3 off and the rest are 2 day blocks and some singles, I do get one occasional 4 off block some months. Due to the lack of frequency/direct flights on those commutes you listed, I don't think you'd be successful very often commuting on your work days. With that being said you could very easily only be home for 2-3 full work/commute free days a month. While tolerable for a shorter period, after years and years in your example that could break a marriage. You could get lucky and get a 15 day off line relatively quick but it won't be in 4 on 4 off blocks since there isn't heavy flying 7 days a week in the smaller bases you mentioned. I personally wouldn't recommend commuting for more than about a year since the schedules are so different from multi-day trip airlines but people have done it.

tom11011 02-07-2020 07:04 AM

In my opinion people come here for the day trip lifestyle to live in a base they call home or want to call home. We aren’t the highest paid airline. I would argue that pilots here do not ever want to see this place turn into an airline that does multi day trips with overnights. If that were to ever happen, there really wouldn’t be much of a reason to stay here as any other airline would have a better pay, retirement, and work rules.

i just can’t recommend coming here and commuting. Can it be done? Sure but at what cost? So you can be miserable and your wife and kids be miserable then find yourself in divorce court? Don’t do this to yourself.

my .02 worth.

Fifi 02-07-2020 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2909810)
Also, does AAY have KCM?

wow, are you gonna commute from Yemen? Or just shopping for a gf upgrade? You could probably pull that off at your local Applebee’s, but some guys love a challenge......

Spectre186 02-10-2020 10:05 AM

I live in LAS and am thinking of sending in an app for Allegiant. What happens if I got a CJO and was not awarded LAS out of training. I have no plans to move but would not have any issues commuting for a bit. Would I basically be required to rent an apartment wherever I was assigned until I could hold Vegas?

As a prior mil guy the perk of being home most nights is very attractive.

Thanks!

N1sync 02-10-2020 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Spectre186 (Post 2974324)
I live in LAS and am thinking of sending in an app for Allegiant. What happens if I got a CJO and was not awarded LAS out of training. I have no plans to move but would not have any issues commuting for a bit. Would I basically be required to rent an apartment wherever I was assigned until I could hold Vegas?

As a prior mil guy the perk of being home most nights is very attractive.

Thanks!


figure you might have to spend 6-12months waiting for LAS, you might get it sooner but who knows. Come here knowing that you will probably never upgrade in LAS until very late in your career most likely. Few retirements and minimal LAS growth will make it difficult.

Spectre186 02-10-2020 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by N1sync (Post 2974420)
figure you might have to spend 6-12months waiting for LAS, you might get it sooner but who knows. Come here knowing that you will probably never upgrade in LAS until very late in your career most likely. Few retirements and minimal LAS growth will make it difficult.

Well, that is certainly a bummer. Not the answer I was hoping for, but I do appreciate the info!

Beech Dude 02-10-2020 08:03 PM

How has ABE been working out for guys? Able to get it out of training?

Alexander12 02-11-2020 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 2974681)
How has ABE been working out for guys? Able to get it out of training?

I’d imagine it’d be easy to get within a few months out of training but this is al guess work. The 2 airplane base system Allegiant uses makes its extremely difficult to guess where guys will end up.

Desert Sky 02-11-2020 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 2974681)
How has ABE been working out for guys? Able to get it out of training?

Yes, with no issues. ABE is the most undesirable base in the system, as such it will always be a constant revolving door.

N1sync 02-11-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Spectre186 (Post 2974438)
Well, that is certainly a bummer. Not the answer I was hoping for, but I do appreciate the info!

sorry I can’t bring you more optimistic news, it’s still a great place and you can get a decent QOL as an FO in Vegas.

tom11011 02-12-2020 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Desert Sky (Post 2975096)
Yes, with no issues. ABE is the most undesirable base in the system, as such it will always be a constant revolving door.

Even Billy Joel hated Allentown.

peaches 02-14-2020 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Desert Sky (Post 2975096)
Yes, with no issues. ABE is the most undesirable base in the system, as such it will always be a constant revolving door.



Sounds like the base to be at! It also doesn’t hurt to live 30 miles away. maybe late 2020 or 2021 I’ll start applying.


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cezzna 02-16-2020 04:42 AM

How many retirements in CVG in the next few years? Anybody have an idea? When I did a meet and greet I was informed that many of the ABX guys got on Allegiant when it went mostly Tango Uniform.

flyoutaz 02-19-2020 11:31 AM

Seen a couple people post of being in a post interview pool for the next class.

Anyone heard if they are still actively hiring or maybe holding off until next class dates are announced? Seems like next expected class would be in May?

Suggestions about proper amount of followup post video interview and meet/greet but no f2f invite? Haven't seen another meet/greet posted yet.

Thanks!

rolo 02-20-2020 06:20 PM

What makes you think May?

flyoutaz 02-20-2020 06:25 PM

Upgrades were mentioned to be likely to take priority in March/April plus March madness/spring breaks making Mar/April busier flying months so less likely to do new classes

KIGECA97531 02-21-2020 05:08 AM

Management said last week at a PIE town hall that they hope to resume hiring late in the summer (July-August). They would prefer to run small classes of less than 10 once a month indefinitely. Attrition is currently 3% CAs and 6% FOs.

wilco811 02-21-2020 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by KIGECA97531 (Post 2980814)
Management said last week at a PIE town hall that they hope to resume hiring late in the summer (July-August). They would prefer to run small classes of less than 10 once a month indefinitely. Attrition is currently 3% CAs and 6% FOs.

Maybe the 6% FO attrition is true but I have been at the same seniority for months now. Early 2016 hire.

SladeTin 02-21-2020 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by wilco811 (Post 2980886)
Maybe the 6% FO attrition is true but I have been at the same seniority for months now. Early 2016 hire.

The FO attrition is about 99% from the bottom of the list.

too low gear 02-26-2020 06:52 PM

Hey guys. I posted this on another thread, but this one seems more active so I copied and paste.

When I completed the first assessment they send you after you apply, I never got a complete message or anything. It just went away and the Allegiant Community page popped up. I'm not sure if it went through. Did that happen with anyone else?

Squeakygreaser 02-27-2020 04:16 AM

That happened to me, the general consensus among my class was that it's a failed assessment. Bad personality. I was able to get an interview by going to a meet and greet. Good luck

too low gear 02-27-2020 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Squeakygreaser (Post 2985008)
That happened to me, the general consensus among my class was that it's a failed assessment. Bad personality. I was able to get an interview by going to a meet and greet. Good luck

Huh. Well that sucks. Okay thanks Be nice if it said that and not just disappear. Will it tell you under your application status if they decide to turn you down because of the assessment? And how long to wait to apply if so? Thanks

Squeakygreaser 02-27-2020 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by too low gear (Post 2985077)
Huh. Well that sucks. Okay thanks Be nice if it said that and not just disappear. Will it tell you under your application status if they decide to turn you down because of the assessment? And how long to wait to apply if so? Thanks

I never got any further information until I went to the meet and greet a couple of weeks later. There was a couple of people there with the same situation.

Props2jetsNG 03-09-2020 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by too low gear (Post 2984908)
Hey guys. I posted this on another thread, but this one seems more active so I copied and paste.

When I completed the first assessment they send you after you apply, I never got a complete message or anything. It just went away and the Allegiant Community page popped up. I'm not sure if it went through. Did that happen with anyone else?

got that, applied again about 6mos later and got the quiz


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