astaz

I don’t understand how it can be a mistake. It’s 100% voluntary, and you don’t have to take it.

If you don’t need the money, and don’t want to work, take it. If you need more, don’t take it. Maybe this will create some open time for those who want to work, who knows.

mountainflying

Blows my mind anyone would argue in favor of less. Everyone should be insulted.

astaz

I am not arguing for less, concessions are off the table, period. However, if you are getting paid to NOT work, normally you get paid 0 hours (termination, furlough, quitting). If people don't WANT to work, they don't have to now, and get 45 hours, 2/3 of their normal pay (and keep their benefits) to not work. If they WANT more, then guess what, they don't volunteer, and have the same playing field they have every other month of the year (minus the fact that open time and the bids will probably be depressing). Nothing was given up, no one took less, it just opened up opportunities for a small fraction of the pilot group interested in this sort of arrangement.

Why don't we all just demand 100 PCH a month to sit at home and not fly and see where we end up... It will be a lot less than 45 PCH.

FreshWater

It’s voluntary. You aren’t forced to insult yourself.

rdneckpilot

filler and stuff

akulahunter

Wow, what a depressing group of complainers you guys are!

I know several people who are caring for elderly parents, small children, or immunocompromised spouses. I'm betting they would love the chance to limit their exposure during the virus. I also know several pilots who are commutting to sit reserve (or composite) right now. Many would like to sit on their couch for 45 versus commute to a crash pad and be away from home for 70 or 72. Several others have independently wealthy spouses, or at least spouses who make a good living, and would like a couple of months of flexibility.

Everyone keeps their benefits (401k, Med, Dent, Travel, JS, etc)

The union didn't give the company anything other than the ability to let a portion of the pilots stay home at a time when flying is scarce.

Everyone has the option to keep rolling the same as before. No one is making anyone take ETO. It's 100% voluntary.

If you don't take it, you'll still get your 70/72 and just have less flying and more sitting.

This thread is littered with a ton of misinformation and whining. It's simple. Don't like it? Don't take it! Like it? Take it! It's as simple as that. If you don't want it, you never have to think about it again.

9easy

Must be a sad life, waking up on a Sunday morning to post stupid memes on APC. To put things in context, Southwest is offering half line guarantee, and spirit is offering 50 hrs. Alaska, JetBlue and frontier haven't offered anything. MG already knows if he's taking the bail out money, if a few dozen pilots take a 45 hour line or not makes absolutely no difference.

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skydisaster

Yep. This is spot on. This is a win for everyone. Would more have been better, sure, but 64% of guarantee (plus benefits) to stay at home is nothing to sneeze at.


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ELAC321

Alaska is 50 hours incentive line fyi. We took a few concessions on bid time lines and canceled trip language in exchange for paid leave for quarantine or any positive covid test.

mountainflying

Sad talking about it on Sunday because it passed on a sat? Dumbass.