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Old 04-24-2020, 05:59 AM
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For those of you looking in, management threatened us that they would furlough 40% of our pilots if they didn't get concessions that include min guarantee reduced from 70 to 45, forgoing seniority in displacements, all pilots to be on reserve from now on, and other draconian measures. All of this would only save the company $25 million dollars and buy them another week or two at most. Shame on them, as the country's most profitable airline, for trying to take advantage of a pandemic to decimate our contract. Their demand is so ridiculous that it's hard to take them seriously. Not even a bankruptcy judge would impose cuts that steep. If things are that bad, they should probably just go ahead and declare bankruptcy now. In a Chapter 11 situation our largest shareholder would stand to lose upwards of 500 million. He also happens to be the CEO. Now that would be shared sacrifice. Management taking short term pay cuts while we give back the farm isn't. This comes after 3.5 years of management wiping their feet with our contract. It seems to me that they already got their concessions and wasted it on a construction project in a swamp. They just burned the last bit of goodwill left in this pilot group. May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Wow. Good luck over there dudes.
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Old 04-24-2020, 06:20 AM
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A little over a month ago I told some friends and fellow G4 pilots that I thought the company might furlough 40% to 50% of the pilots which they thought was crazy. But, as I explained to them, this would effectively close a majority of the small bases since they are generally manned by the bottom half of the list.

Then the company would reconsolidate the operation into 5-7 large bases and just run multi day trips like every other airline. Once a furloughed pilot gets recalled he has to move at his expense to one of the few remaining bases or commute.

After last night’s email and video it looks like this may actually be the plan.
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Old 04-24-2020, 06:38 AM
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Ch 11?
We are talking Ch 7 here.

Restructuring debt doesn't always pay the bills.
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Old 04-24-2020, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Flight Deck Ape View Post
A little over a month ago I told some friends and fellow G4 pilots that I thought the company might furlough 40% to 50% of the pilots which they thought was crazy. But, as I explained to them, this would effectively close a majority of the small bases since they are generally manned by the bottom half of the list.

Then the company would reconsolidate the operation into 5-7 large bases and just run multi day trips like every other airline. Once a furloughed pilot gets recalled he has to move at his expense to one of the few remaining bases or commute.

After last night’s email and video it looks like this may actually be the plan.
Yes. They are using the pandemic as an excuse to do what they've been talking about for the last 6 months. They practically admitted that the small base strategy was a bust long before all this began. Now they have the perfect excuse to correct their mistakes at our expense, gut our contract, and get rid of day trips. They might as well just shut it down. If we are going to be a regular airline but with way lower compensation than anyone else, nobody will want to work here anyhow. Maybe they don't care since no majors will be hiring for years and they think everyone will just be glad to have a job. They underestimate this pilot group.
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Old 04-24-2020, 07:05 AM
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Perfect response by our union leader. GFY. ****ing down our legs and calling it rain. I hope that guy calls in again for the next earnings call and ask how did that swamp work out? Why is JR still here, no more hotel for him to run.



Ya, the micro base system is done. That’s why management wants to trash the contract, the bump and flush is going to be epic. Oh well, gonna follow the contract.
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I suggest all pilots declining the ETO next go ‘round would be an appropriate response & show of solidarity....
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Those in the possibly perceived danger zone as indicated by management should be burning up your sick bank and ya screw the ETO.
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Wow, terribly sorry to be reading this. Seems to me the only response to something so vile from management is to hit them back with something equally outlandish. I wish all of you the best. Truly, I do.
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Jeez. I think Nancy Reagan's advice is applicable here.
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