Amateur Hour for the Local
10-13-2020, 06:06 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by yayairplanes
How does having flights go unstaffed and cancelled, harming the company you work for help out you or make it more likely to have your peers called back? Do you want so many flights to cancel that your employer goes out of business? You want to kick them while they're down? You know they pay your mortgage, right? You guys are a bunch of communists.
10-13-2020, 11:45 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
Um, stand together with your brethren and not pick up any open time. So the company starts to recall your furloughed brothers. Do you get that concept? Or some of you just don’t give a fuk about anyone but yourselves.
10-14-2020, 05:00 PM
#23
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Position: A320 CA
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"Local 2118 does not endorse or condone any concerted refusal to pick up OT, SAP or VFN and encourages pilots to pick up time using those methods if they desire to."
Does that mean the bullying and demonization will stop? Apparently not...
Does that mean the bullying and demonization will stop? Apparently not...
10-14-2020, 05:47 PM
#24
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Position: A320
Posts: 311
Originally Posted by captnate702
"Local 2118 does not endorse or condone any concerted refusal to pick up OT, SAP or VFN and encourages pilots to pick up time using those methods if they desire to."
Does that mean the bullying and demonization will stop? Apparently not...
Does that mean the bullying and demonization will stop? Apparently not...
10-14-2020, 11:33 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
Um, stand together with your brethren and not pick up any open time. So the company starts to recall your furloughed brothers. Do you get that concept? Or some of you just don’t give a fuk about anyone but yourselves.
10-15-2020, 01:22 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by ElCaribe
What don’t you get about staffing required per block hours?
but just in case my post was meant to be sarcasm.
picking up open time while others are being furloughed is a $#!t move.
or I’m not understanding you and you thing that’s ok?
10-16-2020, 10:35 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by captnate702
You all know what is going on with our FB page and the "list". If anybody from the union leadership knew anything about organized labor they would know how reckless they are acting right now.
EXCO, Stewards, Scheduling Committee are a bunch of amateurs.
EXCO, Stewards, Scheduling Committee are a bunch of amateurs.
You obviously haven’t gotten the support you came here to rally. So that tells me that maybe the union isn’t exactly doing that bad of a job? Crazy. I wouldn’t be totally shocked if it came to light that you’re a member of management who has come here to stir ****. Because that’s exactly what someone who is in management at Allegiant Airlines would do. Stir ****. This is classic Allegiant management behavior. It’s a bit juvenile how management attacks and belittles the IBT in every single memo that is sent out. I’ve never heard of another airline that treats their pilot union *this* hostile except for maybe the bottom feeder regionals. And Allegiant management is better than that right..... right? .... right? No? Maybe not.
10-16-2020, 11:06 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 104
Originally Posted by yayairplanes
How does having flights go unstaffed and cancelled, harming the company you work for help out you or make it more likely to have your peers called back? Do you want so many flights to cancel that your employer goes out of business? You want to kick them while they're down? You know they pay your mortgage, right? You guys are a bunch of communists.
I don’t think you understand how unions work or the definition of communism. But know this, when you look around the room and can’t figure out why everyone is saying what you’re doing is wrong, maybe you should take a step back and ask those very people.
10-17-2020, 07:49 AM
#30
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This thread is asinine.
Beware of the management trolls. The company law firm (F&H) gets their jollies out of coming on here and trolling pilots.
Also, any public talk of illegal job actions should be halted immediately. In 2017, the Spirit pilots got an injunction because of a poorly organized open time campaign on this very site. It's everyone's personal decision whether to pick up time or not, and nobody should be called out or shamed for doing it. Especially, people should stop talking about it. The last thing we need right now is our EXCO getting handcuffed by an activist, management friendly Federal judge.
Beware of the management trolls. The company law firm (F&H) gets their jollies out of coming on here and trolling pilots.
Also, any public talk of illegal job actions should be halted immediately. In 2017, the Spirit pilots got an injunction because of a poorly organized open time campaign on this very site. It's everyone's personal decision whether to pick up time or not, and nobody should be called out or shamed for doing it. Especially, people should stop talking about it. The last thing we need right now is our EXCO getting handcuffed by an activist, management friendly Federal judge.
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