awacs

Well we did a deal. We will still have 130 pilots furloughed. We will have 30 captains downgraded and possibly based turmoil but we did save some jobs.

best we could do.

Awacs

Margaritaville

The company can still use "vacancy reductions" too. This will create an army of migrant workers, getting shuffled base to base at their own expense when VBD goes away. But hey, at least we saved 70 jobs. (United, Spirit, Alaska, JetBlue, and Frontier saved everyone). The 30 downgrades just throw salt in the wound. It would have cost them little to keep these 30 captains in the left seat for a few more months.

Allegiant is the only mainline carrier that treats everyone like a bottom feeder regional. But hey you get to sleep in your own bed every night. Until you don't.

Yep, furlough mitigation Allegiant style. Our "unique business model". Thanks for your flexibility.

PiltWhosNotMgnt

On one hand this deal was great if you were in the pool to be furloughed. On the other hand it was horrible because we are still leaving 130 of our brother and sisters out on the streets. I’d rather have continued to push for an agreement that kept all of our pilots employed but alas I am a lowly line pilot who isn’t in charge of business.

Sad day I think

G4er

Very sad. We furloughed and will downgrade the bare bones. We all knew they couldn’t furlough the full 100. We didn’t “save” anybody. But like from above, what do I know, I am a lowly line pilot who isn’t in charge of business.

captnate702

As somebody who has been critical of our EXCO leadership for not doing everything they could to save jobs and relying too much on a second CARES act (at least that was my perception), I say kudos to the EXCO. Saving 70 jobs is no joke (7% of our membership), those 70 FOs deserve it. As do the VBDs who will rightfully be able to exercise their seniority. And most importantly, this involved a VOLUNTARY leave program (I have never advocated for involuntary leaves, only voluntary ETOs like we had initially).

Do I still feel bad for the 130, of course I do. I hope we can bring them back soon. But given this management team, I think the EXCO absolutely fulfilled their legal and fiduciary obligations to their junior members and for that I say GREAT JOB. This is how truly unified labor organizations are built, by looking out for the junior FOs the same way you would for the senior CAs.

Kudos EXCO.

Margaritaville

I'm sure the union really values your opinion after your numerous posts calling them amateurs and incompetents.

The fact that this management shill likes this deal speaks volumes about it.

Margaritaville

Let's also mention the delayed bid timeline for the next year. What does that accomplish? Why do they want it so much? Why did we give it up? Now composite line holders can wait until 2 days before the end of the month to get this schedules for no particular reason. Outstanding.

labbats

Compare this to the thoroughly unacceptable company proposals and I think we all owe the EXCO some appreciation.

captnate702

So you'd rather management just furlough the other 70? Kudos to the EXCO for saving 70 of our junior FOs in exchange for a modified bid period timeline and purely VOLUNTARY leaves. What in the hell are you complaining about? How is this not a good thing? I'm not saying its a perfect solution, but it is beyond me that anybody would spit on this.

And the amateur hour was because the EXCO and Scheduling Committee's fingerprints were all over the heat that was being thrown on pilots. You're naivety is astounding. 1224 got shellacked just a couple years ago for the same sort of nonsense and it completely neutered any leverage they had with Atlas. Why risk that when we know management hires the exact same attorneys as Atlas and knows how to exploit that type of amateurism by a Union to gain even more leverage. You want us to get slapped with an injunction while management is furloughing hundreds of pilots are you nuts? There is a reason that noise has been drowned out since the EXCO's communication. And to top it all off, its not even like our operation was putting pressure on management from an operational meltdown (a la NK in May 2018 when they were slapped with an injunction - they had 18% of flights cancel over a four day period...that will bring any management group to their knees). So yes, it was amateur hour for Union leadership to put their names on that.

rdneckpilot

I would have sacrificed the 70 and prevented concessions. To each their own.