If the idiots kept their mouths shut, we would never know where they were.... :rolleyes:

If it was expensive, we wouldn't be there.

We're not "messing" with the big boys. We'll only have direct competition on one or two routes, and those are against t-props.

LAX traffic is down a lot. I do not know about cost to operate there, and ONT would be an interesting choice but I am sure Allegiant analysed it all carefully.

Last fall a friend showed me a report he had printed off the internet. It showed the highest oil price that each airline could endure and still be profitable. According to this report, Allegiant can be profitable at $200/barrel.

It could be that LAX gave them stronger incentives than the other places to get them to base there - not sure, pure speculation. Personally, I like Burbank when going to LA, but there is no non-stop service to Burbank from MCI, so I take SWA to LAX (I prefer a non-stop to LAX over a plane change in PHX or LAS to BUR - just a preference). LAX doesn't seem as much of a hassle as other large airports like DFW, ATL, ORD - I have never had to wait for a gate to open up when we arrive and I have never had a delay after pushing from the gate. In fact, all the flights have been pretty much on time with the only exception being a 20 minute delay a couple year ago while the wild fires were happening - we had to hold briefly. Not sure why this is with LAX - maybe I have just gotten lucky.

Well I guess... $1 per diem, MAX $99K/yr CA and MAX $50K/yr FO with crap insurance and nearly no retirement and a max of 10/days off a month... you too could start airline and be profitable. (slave labor)

Are you that upset with DAL that you have to rain on everyone's parade?

A new airline attempting to gain market share, hiring, and making money.

Tell me, was DAL the highest paying airline with the best benefits from day 1?

I can tell you that SWA was not, but look where they are now. The airline with industry leading pay, work rules and QOL.

How long have you been at DAL? Does that earn you the right to look down you nose at ALGT? You act like you yourself fought for the contract you work under.

If/when they get a industry standard contract, at least those they're now can pat themselves on the back for building an airline from the ground up, rather than strolling into a cherry situation and then ripping on others.

You got us on the dollar per hour per diem, but since we do out and backs, we're not required to get any per diem.

Where do you get MAX 99K a year Captain? I made over that last year as a 4th year, and I know someone who made 40+% more than that last year...

Get your facts right bubba

If you're going to TRY and trash another airline, at least SOUND intelligent.

Where do you get max salaries? Not true. Crap insurance? And do you even know what the insurance is over here? MAX 10 days off a month? Try MIN 10 days off a month, which is nothing out of the ordinary.

I know that LGB has a T/O & Landing Slot Restriction per the city....JB and ALA have a majority of those cornered. I believe SNA is in the same boat....as far as ONT and BUR, not too sure.

With many of the Legacys cutting back/reducing the flying in general (not to mention some of the foreign carriers as well), I'm sure LAX is a fesible option with all things considered.

You can count on one thing.....time will tell if this was the right move.:cool:

I came directly from a Legacy and I make more here at Allegiant. Starting pay is higher here. Upgrade time is about 10 years quicker here so I will make more than at my Legacy and upgrade before you will. You probably started flying Mad Dogs way before I did. I just got a hefty bonus for the profits made last year. I have had no less than 16-18 days off every month since I started last year with the exception of next month. I only got 13 days with 95 hours. My senior Captain friends are making approx. $160K. to $170K. They haven't been in the company long either because Allegiant hasn't existed very long. They all fly their butts off and are home every day. My insurance here is better than at my Legacy. I was thrilled when I first saw the plan and compared it to my Legacy's plan.