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Old 10-25-2015, 12:21 PM
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Just a word to the wise. Next schedule allows a total of 2 days at home. Yes, you read it right, 2 days at home for the entire month. Oh, and I almost forgot, no I'm not TDY, VBD, etc, just an average 5 yr capt. My commute home is less than a two hr flight on any number of airlines. But, since the schedule is manipulated at AAY, they put single days off for all but 2 times, and the 2 times there are more than one day off (read 2 days off in a row), they make sure your schedule prior to your day off ends after the last flight out, which ensures you won't get home. Oh yes, also, they make sure if you do get home, you'll need to turn right back around because your next trip begins at 6am, so you need to get there the night before.

Again, a 5 yr capt with 2 total days at home for the entire month who lives within a 2 hr commute type flight. But hey, SH, GB, MG, etc say they are trying to make this a great place to work, and those rotten pilots are asking for too much. I wonder how many days management gets to be home?

Remember if you are looking at coming to G4; if they promote the "home every night" statement, they are simply saying that you won't be in a hotel; you'll just be somewhere that you must call home because Allegiant isn't keeping you in a hotel!
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Old 10-25-2015, 12:35 PM
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Would you be home every night if you lived in base


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Just a word to the wise. Next schedule allows a total of 2 days at home. Yes, you read it right, 2 days at home for the entire month. Oh, and I almost forgot, no I'm not TDY, VBD, etc, just an average 5 yr capt. My commute home is less than a two hr flight on any number of airlines. But, since the schedule is manipulated at AAY, they put single days off for all but 2 times, and the 2 times there are more than one day off (read 2 days off in a row), they make sure your schedule prior to your day off ends after the last flight out, which ensures you won't get home. Oh yes, also, they make sure if you do get home, you'll need to turn right back around because your next trip begins at 6am, so you need to get there the night before.

Again, a 5 yr capt with 2 total days at home for the entire month who lives within a 2 hr commute type flight. But hey, SH, GB, MG, etc say they are trying to make this a great place to work, and those rotten pilots are asking for too much. I wonder how many days management gets to be home?

Remember if you are looking at coming to G4; if they promote the "home every night" statement, they are simply saying that you won't be in a hotel; you'll just be somewhere that you must call home because Allegiant isn't keeping you in a hotel!
Where do you live and where are you based? It's a known thing that this is not a commutable airline. I've had guys ask about coming here and told them they need to be prepared to move to their base or never plan to be home. Has this changed in 5 years?
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Just a word to the wise. Next schedule allows a total of 2 days at home. Yes, you read it right, 2 days at home for the entire month. Oh, and I almost forgot, no I'm not TDY, VBD, etc, just an average 5 yr capt. My commute home is less than a two hr flight on any number of airlines. But, since the schedule is manipulated at AAY, they put single days off for all but 2 times, and the 2 times there are more than one day off (read 2 days off in a row), they make sure your schedule prior to your day off ends after the last flight out, which ensures you won't get home. Oh yes, also, they make sure if you do get home, you'll need to turn right back around because your next trip begins at 6am, so you need to get there the night before.

Again, a 5 yr capt with 2 total days at home for the entire month who lives within a 2 hr commute type flight. But hey, SH, GB, MG, etc say they are trying to make this a great place to work, and those rotten pilots are asking for too much. I wonder how many days management gets to be home?

Remember if you are looking at coming to G4; if they promote the "home every night" statement, they are simply saying that you won't be in a hotel; you'll just be somewhere that you must call home because Allegiant isn't keeping you in a hotel!
I have always told people that are interested in Allegiant that this is not an airline that you can commute to. If you live in one of the bases, or are willing to move to one of the bases than life isn't too bad. (Depending on what your definition of not to bad is, I suppose). But, if you want to commute than this will be the worst place that you could ever be at. Your schedule is the big reason why I tell people this.

Everyone out there, do NOT come to Allegiant expecting to commute! I live in base and see my family a lot. If you come to Allegiant, MOVE TO YOUR ASSIGNED BASE!
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I live in base and the single days off don't allow for travel without bidding vacation.

I'm maxxed out on PTO accrual and get three weeks vacation a year... as long as I never call in sick or request a day off. Then it eats into your PTO/vacation allotment. One sick call on a 7 hour day takes almost two months to make up.

Just another thing to consider.
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:13 PM
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Hey guys; I'm just trying to advise the "home every night" is a false premise to come here on. I know, I know......just move to your base and everything is fine. Oh wait; I'll move to Laughlin, ok things are great (oops, that base is closed); how about Grand Rapids, I'll move there! ( oops, that base closed too), ok, Los Angeles a major USA city and hub, I'll move there (oops, another base closure), well then Tunica (nope, also closed), ok Wendover (not for long....closing now).

So to tell new hires, or anyone else for that matter, just live in base.......it only works if you want to rely on MG, SH, etc keeping your base open! Take a look, from minor middle of nowhere to major U.S. Cities, G4 will open and close bases each and every year. Yes, SFB, IWA, and LAS are probably safe. Any other base I wouldn't necessarily be convinced is going to stay operational.

I'm just putting it out there that a 2 hr commute isn't even commutable at G4. I'd like to see scheduling as a major issue for everyone in the contract (stalled) negotiations. You can only promote "live in base" if your base stays open!(Oops, another gaff.....apparently our negotiations are moving along quite well according to the propaganda management is issuing)
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Hey guys; I'm just trying to advise the "home every night" is a false premise to come here on. I know, I know......just move to your base and everything is fine. Oh wait; I'll move to Laughlin, ok things are great (oops, that base is closed); how about Grand Rapids, I'll move there! ( oops, that base closed too), ok, Los Angeles a major USA city and hub, I'll move there (oops, another base closure), well then Tunica (nope, also closed), ok Wendover (not for long....closing now).

So to tell new hires, or anyone else for that matter, just live in base.......it only works if you want to rely on MG, SH, etc keeping your base open! Take a look, from minor middle of nowhere to major U.S. Cities, G4 will open and close bases each and every year. Yes, SFB, IWA, and LAS are probably safe. Any other base I wouldn't necessarily be convinced is going to stay operational.

I'm just putting it out there that a 2 hr commute isn't even commutable at G4. I'd like to see scheduling as a major issue for everyone in the contract (stalled) negotiations. You can only promote "live in base" if your base stays open!(Oops, another gaff.....apparently our negotiations are moving along quite well according to the propaganda management is issuing)
True, I would say "home every night" needs and asterisk. If you're going to move to smaller based like AVL or BLI I wouldn't count on them being open forever. Florida and Vegas are safe bets so if you want to live in those places I would say Allegiant is a place to consider. Outside of that I think it's a crapshoot. Good things to point out to the regional guys considering coming here.
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How long for a new hire to hold LAS?
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:57 PM
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How long for a new hire to hold LAS?
Plenty get it out of training on the 80. For the 75, never.
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