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lr35pilot 01-02-2014 03:20 AM

Allegiant
 
Happy new year and thanks but no thanks. Rejected on day one of 2014. Still open for American and usair.

PilotJ3 01-02-2014 04:33 AM


Happy new year and thanks but no thanks. Rejected on day one of 2014. Still open for American and usair.
Same here! Oh well...Ill keep trying.

eagleatr 01-02-2014 05:54 AM

With the way things are currently going, I would look at that as a GOOD thing.

PilotJ3 01-02-2014 05:59 AM


With the way things are currently going, I would look at that as a GOOD thing.
Things going where?

chrtrplt 01-02-2014 06:42 AM

Down the toilet.

belliott 01-02-2014 07:44 AM

After the 3rd rejection letter I just stopped trying...

SVA402 01-02-2014 08:10 AM

I'm told when they close the window the system sends out these letters sometimes. I have talked to 2 different people who got hired after getting that letter.

CLMP 01-02-2014 08:51 AM

Getting a rejection letter followed by an offer of employment is an excellent preview of how the company is run. Believe me......

jtseed 01-02-2014 09:10 PM

TBNT also
 
Happy New Year 2014! I am member of the TBNT club too :(
Still hopeful for AA, DAL, US Air

labbats 01-03-2014 01:57 AM

I know it's hard to read a rejection letter and even harder to hear people working here say it's a blessing in disguise. Trust me though, it is utter chaos here now and the work rules tell only part of the story.

Many people are TDY this month after being told no TDYs were planned. Of those people many didn't know they were TDY until they tried to bid and it showed them in another base. The schedules are screwed up top to bottom and we just received an email telling us that they know a lot of it is awarded incorrectly but don't email them anymore. They aren't going to change it and they don't have time to respond to anyone's emails.

The new software can't track anyone's flight and duty times for January 1st - January 4th. No one can look and see if a plane is late. Stories of people being called twice in one night for a forced change to another trip (work rules allow this for any reason at any time) are being compared to people showing up at the airport and the rest of the crew is at home asleep because they were never notified.

We've sub-serviced dozens and dozens of flights to Falcon, Miami Air and Sun Country for thousands of dollars a flight hour while refusing to offer premium pay to our own pilots to pick them up.

Our union is suing the company to remove workrules they created while in negotiations. Seriously.

To say it's gone badly is to understate it. I hope I've shed some light on why it may be a blessing in disguise to get the TBNT email. Best of luck to all of you.

j3cub 01-03-2014 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1551402)
I know it's hard to read a rejection letter and even harder to hear people working here say it's a blessing in disguise. Trust me though, it is utter chaos here now and the work rules tell only part of the story.

Many people are TDY this month after being told no TDYs were planned. Of those people many didn't know they were TDY until they tried to bid and it showed them in another base. The schedules are screwed up top to bottom and we just received an email telling us that they know a lot of it is awarded incorrectly but don't email them anymore. They aren't going to change it and they don't have time to respond to anyone's emails.

The new software can't track anyone's flight and duty times for January 1st - January 4th. No one can look and see if a plane is late. Stories of people being called twice in one night for a forced change to another trip (work rules allow this for any reason at any time) are being compared to people showing up at the airport and the rest of the crew is at home asleep because they were never notified.

We've sub-serviced dozens and dozens of flights to Falcon, Miami Air and Sun Country for thousands of dollars a flight hour while refusing to offer premium pay to our own pilots to pick them up.

Our union is suing the company to remove workrules they created while in negotiations. Seriously.

To say it's gone badly is to understate it. I hope I've shed some light on why it may be a blessing in disguise to get the TBNT email. Best of luck to all of you.

AIS still works for the Flight Following function. You can verify times and see if a plane is late. Only function not working is the crew information.

labbats 01-03-2014 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by j3cub (Post 1551404)
AIS still works for the Flight Following function. You can verify times and see if a plane is late. Only function not working is the crew information.

I didn't know that. Appreciate it.

Just re-read my post and I sound pretty negative. It bums me out that we had a place 2-3 years ago that so many of us would have done anything for.

CLMP 01-03-2014 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1551405)
I didn't know that. Appreciate it.

Just re-read my post and I sound pretty negative. It bums me out that we had a place 2-3 years ago that so many of us would have done anything for.

Yep, rampant greed and disregard for everything but the bottom line have destroyed a once excellent business model.

qball 01-03-2014 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by CLMP (Post 1551487)
Yep, rampant greed and disregard for everything but the bottom line have destroyed a once excellent business model.

That gets repeated every couple years or so in this industry...has since de-regulation.

MD80driver2day 01-03-2014 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1551402)
No one can look and see if a plane is late.

AIS Flight Following still works. No crew info, but flight info is accurate.


Edit: Didn't read all the way down. Someone beat me to it.

tailendcharlie 01-03-2014 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 1551564)
That gets repeated every couple years or so in this industry...has since de-regulation.

Yup. It happens when a small mom-and-pop operation is transitioning to a "real" airline. The old guard who built the airline, though perhaps a bit unsophisticated, hung out at the airport and knew what was going on. In their place are 25-year-old MBA's who sit in windowless rooms in some officepark and believe everything their spreadsheets tell them. Everyone fom the newest line pilot to the chief pilot were telling the bean counters last summer they needed to hire & uograde pronto, and in large numbers. They didn't see it that way......

walt heisenberg 01-03-2014 07:50 PM

i also got tbnt but i really did not expect one...since I did not even submit my app. I only created the account and uploaded my resume. Never hit submit button. Now, that's a funny thing.
BTW, is it still open?

colonials13 01-07-2014 09:00 AM

Any pilots at Allegiant start out as an internal hire?

CLMP 01-07-2014 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by colonials13 (Post 1553948)
Any pilots at Allegiant start out as an internal hire?

We have one FO who used to be an intern, but that's it.

Xbone 01-07-2014 05:23 PM

“At the end of the day”
 
Does anyone think we will ever see another “coffee corner”? I miss all of that transparency and openness.

727CA 01-07-2014 06:09 PM

Applied at Allegiant, and just received my rejection email the other day.
Oh well.
At least they have the courtesy to send a rejection letter, most airlines don't even acknowledge receiving your application/resume to begin with.

MD80driver2day 01-07-2014 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Xbone (Post 1554275)
Does anyone think we will ever see another “coffee corner”? I miss all of that transparency and openness.

Transparency and openness... <looking for the LOL emoticon>

tailendcharlie 01-07-2014 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Xbone (Post 1554275)
Does anyone think we will ever see another “coffee corner”? I miss all of that transparency and openness.

Coffee Corner was a golden opportunity for mangement to present unapposed and unchallenged their spin and to manage expectations. A one-sided forum like this has no place in an environment where union contract negotitions are ongoing.

CLMP 01-07-2014 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 1554322)
Coffee Corner was a golden opportunity for mangement to present unapposed and unchallenged their spin and to manage expectations. A one-sided forum like this has no place in an environment where union contract negotitions are ongoing.

While I never partook in the Coffin Corner discussions because they were unpaid, I hear they stopped due to the pilots asking the tough questions and the discussion getting heated. Being that those holding the meeting are used to being surround by people who nod and agree with everything they say, this was unacceptable.

MD80driver2day 01-07-2014 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 1554322)
Coffee Corner was a golden opportunity for mangement to present unapposed and unchallenged their spin and to manage expectations. A one-sided forum like this has no place in an environment where union contract negotitions are ongoing.

I think he was being sarcastic.??


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