104 HR March Schd / Allegiant Air
02-20-2014, 05:53 PM
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111 for Jan. 105 for Feb. 103 for Mar.
My personal fav is I am at 32.3 hours (in 7 days) thanks to a 4+2 day with 1 day off then another 3 day.
But, hey...these rules are all about mitigating pilot fatigue.
BTW - it's not just Allegiant, I'm at the Tranny.
My personal fav is I am at 32.3 hours (in 7 days) thanks to a 4+2 day with 1 day off then another 3 day.
But, hey...these rules are all about mitigating pilot fatigue.
BTW - it's not just Allegiant, I'm at the Tranny.
02-21-2014, 04:04 AM
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I fear Allegiant are burning the furniture to heat the house. With understaffed-driven schedules like these what is going to happen as we head into 2015 is the rolling 1000 hour/365-day lookback is gonna bite them. Do the math. 9 80-hour months plus 3 93-hour months = 999 hours. They are going to be sitting there trying to run 100 hr. lines for March 2015 and realize it's caught up to them - pilots are simply not legal to do it. And this will continue ad-infinitum every time they hit a busy month. Only a massive hiring/upgrade plan starting immediately - which frankly the training department probably couldn't handle - would avert yet another "crisis".
Last edited by tailendcharlie; 02-21-2014 at 04:25 AM.
02-21-2014, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
I fear Allegiant are burning the furniture to heat the house. With understaffed-driven schedules like these what is going to happen as we head into 2015 is the rolling 1000 hour/365-day lookback is gonna bite them. Do the math. 9 80-hour months plus 3 93-hour months = 999 hours. They are going to be sitting there trying to run 100 hr. lines for March 2015 and realize it's caught up to them - pilots are simply not legal to do it. And this will continue ad-infinitum every time they hit a busy month. Only a massive hiring/upgrade plan starting immediately - which frankly the training department probably couldn't handle - would avert yet another "crisis".
02-21-2014, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
111 for Jan. 105 for Feb. 103 for Mar.
My personal fav is I am at 32.3 hours (in 7 days) thanks to a 4+2 day with 1 day off then another 3 day.
But, hey...these rules are all about mitigating pilot fatigue.
BTW - it's not just Allegiant, I'm at the Tranny.
My personal fav is I am at 32.3 hours (in 7 days) thanks to a 4+2 day with 1 day off then another 3 day.
But, hey...these rules are all about mitigating pilot fatigue.
BTW - it's not just Allegiant, I'm at the Tranny.
02-21-2014, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
I fear Allegiant are burning the furniture to heat the house. With understaffed-driven schedules like these what is going to happen as we head into 2015 is the rolling 1000 hour/365-day lookback is gonna bite them. Do the math. 9 80-hour months plus 3 93-hour months = 999 hours. They are going to be sitting there trying to run 100 hr. lines for March 2015 and realize it's caught up to them - pilots are simply not legal to do it. And this will continue ad-infinitum every time they hit a busy month. Only a massive hiring/upgrade plan starting immediately - which frankly the training department probably couldn't handle - would avert yet another "crisis".
02-21-2014, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SrfNFly227
I've been saying for a while that this is a serious problem that nobody seems to be thinking about yet. It's going to get bad next year.
You'd be surprised what Allegiant is paying for.
02-21-2014, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
111 for Jan. 105 for Feb. 103 for Mar.
My personal fav is I am at 32.3 hours (in 7 days) thanks to a 4+2 day with 1 day off then another 3 day.
But, hey...these rules are all about mitigating pilot fatigue.
BTW - it's not just Allegiant, I'm at the Tranny.
My personal fav is I am at 32.3 hours (in 7 days) thanks to a 4+2 day with 1 day off then another 3 day.
But, hey...these rules are all about mitigating pilot fatigue.
BTW - it's not just Allegiant, I'm at the Tranny.
02-21-2014, 05:50 AM
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Much of this self-inflicted staffing crisis has a lot to do with ego, and utter disdain that MG has for pilots. The accountants that run this airline cant stand to see a pilot have more than 5 days off a month. We're whining little B^*th@ in their eyes.
They are given free rein to make our lives miserable. This pervasive culture of hate the pilot comes right from the top. For at least the last two years, when we use to have coffee corners, and base visits, pilots complained about PTO being useless, un-commutable schedules, etc. We warned of a constant under staffing.
Because we wanted it, meant management would do everything not to give it. Ego and utter disregard for our request. Let them eat cake.
They are given free rein to make our lives miserable. This pervasive culture of hate the pilot comes right from the top. For at least the last two years, when we use to have coffee corners, and base visits, pilots complained about PTO being useless, un-commutable schedules, etc. We warned of a constant under staffing.
Because we wanted it, meant management would do everything not to give it. Ego and utter disregard for our request. Let them eat cake.
02-21-2014, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If your flying 100 hours a month it's highly likely you will exceed 100 in a rolling 28 days at some point. Several airlines are either not tracking this or doing it incorrectly leaving the pilot with a FAR violation. This is a hard thing to track so the ALPA or some other app is almost mandatory.
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