AAC Carrier Nonrev upgrade?
03-03-2017, 01:51 PM
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AAC Carrier Nonrev upgrade?
I was just wondering if any of you non-rev gurus know if the "AAC" non-rev priority code is eligible for premium cabin upgrades, specifically on international flights. It won't let me list for this on MyIDTravel, but not sure if that actually means I'm not eligible.
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03-03-2017, 06:02 PM
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AAC is the non rev (cabin seat only) code for non wholly owned American Eagle. Republic, Skywest, ASA, etc that fly the American Eagle brand fall under this category.
Are they upgradeable? No clue. I'm not sure if myidtravel allows listing in different classes.
But while I'm on this subject....
As a member of the APA national j/s committee, we do run into this a lot: Any non wholly owned pilot who flies the American Eagle brand has a choice to either list for a cabin seat (AAC) or the cockpit jumpseat (D6UJ.) They are not interchangeable, and any AAC pilot who goes up to the agent and asks to be considered for the FDJ absolutely screws over any other airline D6UJ that may already be on the list (because the AAC goes way higher on the priority list.) So that is why the policy exists to either list for the cabin (AAC) or the cockpit j/s (D6UJ) - never both.
Personally, I would just list for the j/s since you never know if a flight will fill up at the last moment and the j/s listing has you covered.
Also, if you are listed for the cockpit j/s on one of my flights, and there are open seats in First, that is where you will sit. :-)
Are they upgradeable? No clue. I'm not sure if myidtravel allows listing in different classes.
But while I'm on this subject....
As a member of the APA national j/s committee, we do run into this a lot: Any non wholly owned pilot who flies the American Eagle brand has a choice to either list for a cabin seat (AAC) or the cockpit jumpseat (D6UJ.) They are not interchangeable, and any AAC pilot who goes up to the agent and asks to be considered for the FDJ absolutely screws over any other airline D6UJ that may already be on the list (because the AAC goes way higher on the priority list.) So that is why the policy exists to either list for the cabin (AAC) or the cockpit j/s (D6UJ) - never both.
Personally, I would just list for the j/s since you never know if a flight will fill up at the last moment and the j/s listing has you covered.
Also, if you are listed for the cockpit j/s on one of my flights, and there are open seats in First, that is where you will sit. :-)
03-04-2017, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
AAC is the non rev (cabin seat only) code for non wholly owned American Eagle. Republic, Skywest, ASA, etc that fly the American Eagle brand fall under this category.
Are they upgradeable? No clue. I'm not sure if myidtravel allows listing in different classes.
But while I'm on this subject....
As a member of the APA national j/s committee, we do run into this a lot: Any non wholly owned pilot who flies the American Eagle brand has a choice to either list for a cabin seat (AAC) or the cockpit jumpseat (D6UJ.) They are not interchangeable, and any AAC pilot who goes up to the agent and asks to be considered for the FDJ absolutely screws over any other airline D6UJ that may already be on the list (because the AAC goes way higher on the priority list.) So that is why the policy exists to either list for the cabin (AAC) or the cockpit j/s (D6UJ) - never both.
Personally, I would just list for the j/s since you never know if a flight will fill up at the last moment and the j/s listing has you covered.
Also, if you are listed for the cockpit j/s on one of my flights, and there are open seats in First, that is where you will sit. :-)
Are they upgradeable? No clue. I'm not sure if myidtravel allows listing in different classes.
But while I'm on this subject....
As a member of the APA national j/s committee, we do run into this a lot: Any non wholly owned pilot who flies the American Eagle brand has a choice to either list for a cabin seat (AAC) or the cockpit jumpseat (D6UJ.) They are not interchangeable, and any AAC pilot who goes up to the agent and asks to be considered for the FDJ absolutely screws over any other airline D6UJ that may already be on the list (because the AAC goes way higher on the priority list.) So that is why the policy exists to either list for the cabin (AAC) or the cockpit j/s (D6UJ) - never both.
Personally, I would just list for the j/s since you never know if a flight will fill up at the last moment and the j/s listing has you covered.
Also, if you are listed for the cockpit j/s on one of my flights, and there are open seats in First, that is where you will sit. :-)
03-06-2017, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stringandrudder
I was just wondering if any of you non-rev gurus know if the "AAC" non-rev priority code is eligible for premium cabin upgrades, specifically on international flights. It won't let me list for this on MyIDTravel, but not sure if that actually means I'm not eligible.
Thanks!
Thanks!
03-06-2017, 07:50 PM
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AAC Carrier Nonrev upgrade?
Originally Posted by aa73
AAC is the non rev (cabin seat only) code for non wholly owned American Eagle. Republic, Skywest, ASA, etc that fly the American Eagle brand fall under this category.
Are they upgradeable? No clue. I'm not sure if myidtravel allows listing in different classes.
But while I'm on this subject....
As a member of the APA national j/s committee, we do run into this a lot: Any non wholly owned pilot who flies the American Eagle brand has a choice to either list for a cabin seat (AAC) or the cockpit jumpseat (D6UJ.) They are not interchangeable, and any AAC pilot who goes up to the agent and asks to be considered for the FDJ absolutely screws over any other airline D6UJ that may already be on the list (because the AAC goes way higher on the priority list.) So that is why the policy exists to either list for the cabin (AAC) or the cockpit j/s (D6UJ) - never both.
Personally, I would just list for the j/s since you never know if a flight will fill up at the last moment and the j/s listing has you covered.
Also, if you are listed for the cockpit j/s on one of my flights, and there are open seats in First, that is where you will sit. :-)
Are they upgradeable? No clue. I'm not sure if myidtravel allows listing in different classes.
But while I'm on this subject....
As a member of the APA national j/s committee, we do run into this a lot: Any non wholly owned pilot who flies the American Eagle brand has a choice to either list for a cabin seat (AAC) or the cockpit jumpseat (D6UJ.) They are not interchangeable, and any AAC pilot who goes up to the agent and asks to be considered for the FDJ absolutely screws over any other airline D6UJ that may already be on the list (because the AAC goes way higher on the priority list.) So that is why the policy exists to either list for the cabin (AAC) or the cockpit j/s (D6UJ) - never both.
Personally, I would just list for the j/s since you never know if a flight will fill up at the last moment and the j/s listing has you covered.
Also, if you are listed for the cockpit j/s on one of my flights, and there are open seats in First, that is where you will sit. :-)
Just as an FYI, this is only an AA thing. I can list for both non-rev and Jumpseat on UAL flights. They never have a problem with it and actually understand the logic. People rather sit in the back if they can and if not, then the Jumpseat.
03-07-2017, 03:17 AM
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It's **always** just an AA thing...welcome to our world! They somehow manage to complicate everything j/s and non-rev related. The only tool we have left as pilots is to personally intervene and make sure your j/s or non rev experience is the best we can make it.
03-07-2017, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
It's **always** just an AA thing...welcome to our world! They somehow manage to complicate everything j/s and non-rev related. The only tool we have left as pilots is to personally intervene and make sure your j/s or non rev experience is the best we can make it.
03-07-2017, 01:46 PM
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Well, that's true.. but I'm talking j/s in general. When the company rolled out the new IVR (j/s reservation system) a couple years ago, it resembled nothing like the LUS system it was supposed to replace. Today it is a huge scrambled mess with pilots double booking the j/s along with a seat in the back (because we have no way of booking the j/s along with a D1, or listing for First).. .pilots making multiple j/s reservations...the j/s was taken out of the basic operating weight so now we're left behind with a weight restriction....if the Primary cancels, the Alternate moves to Primary but his PNR disappears... I could go on and on.
And the biggest PITA? The fact that OAL pilots first have to list on myidtravel.com for the j/s (instead of just walking up to the gate like UAL/DAL)...only to have to deal with inconsistent agents who many times leave them behind.
It's a mess.
And the biggest PITA? The fact that OAL pilots first have to list on myidtravel.com for the j/s (instead of just walking up to the gate like UAL/DAL)...only to have to deal with inconsistent agents who many times leave them behind.
It's a mess.
03-07-2017, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Well, that's true.. but I'm talking j/s in general. When the company rolled out the new IVR (j/s reservation system) a couple years ago, it resembled nothing like the LUS system it was supposed to replace. Today it is a huge scrambled mess with pilots double booking the j/s along with a seat in the back (because we have no way of booking the j/s along with a D1, or listing for First).. .pilots making multiple j/s reservations...the j/s was taken out of the basic operating weight so now we're left behind with a weight restriction....if the Primary cancels, the Alternate moves to Primary but his PNR disappears... I could go on and on.
And the biggest PITA? The fact that OAL pilots first have to list on myidtravel.com for the j/s (instead of just walking up to the gate like UAL/DAL)...only to have to deal with inconsistent agents who many times leave them behind.
It's a mess.
And the biggest PITA? The fact that OAL pilots first have to list on myidtravel.com for the j/s (instead of just walking up to the gate like UAL/DAL)...only to have to deal with inconsistent agents who many times leave them behind.
It's a mess.
Listing on myidtravel.com is actually an improvement as we no longer have to call to get listed. But yeah, sometimes the gate agents leave a lot to be desired. And j/s on envoy is even worse as the pilots are completely taken out of the loop. It doesn't matter if they take a walk and find out if there is a j/s trying to get on.
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