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Bruno82 04-05-2017 02:03 PM

AA Internal Recs
 
Greetings,

How does the internal rec process work at AA? Do the employees just walk a letter of rec to the CP or do you attach it to the online application?

Thanks.

Sam York 04-05-2017 03:02 PM

The person writing the recommendation attaches it to your app. You need to provide the rec writer the email you used to apply.

Bruno82 04-06-2017 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sam York (Post 2336992)
The person writing the recommendation attaches it to your app. You need to provide the rec writer the email you used to apply.

Thank you.

saxman66 04-18-2017 10:57 AM

I'm assuming the recommendation attached to Pilot Credentials only helps after you get the invite?


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PRS Guitars 04-18-2017 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by saxman66 (Post 2345770)
I'm assuming the recommendation attached to Pilot Credentials only helps after you get the invite?


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That used to be the case, but they've sent out a few emails saying that LOR's were part of the selection process. With that said, I'd bet that they are just saying that to placate the pilots, and that they don't look at them until late in the process, pure guess though...

drinksonme 04-19-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2345784)
That used to be the case, but they've sent out a few emails saying that LOR's were part of the selection process. With that said, I'd bet that they are just saying that to placate the pilots, and that they don't look at them until late in the process, pure guess though...

I doubt you are that far off actually. I have a friend who had 8 letters of rec, all from LAA pilots (6 CA's (2 of whom were check airmen) and 2 FO (one senior one junior).....that was 2 years ago

He's loving his job at Delta.....AA still hasn't called.....😒

speedbrakearmed 07-18-2018 10:04 AM

Anyone know how long it takes for an internal recommendation to show up on your Pilot Credentials portal? My LOR was apparently submitted by an AA FO a couple of days ago. It says that all letters are reviewed before being approved, anyone have a timeline on this?

PRS Guitars 07-18-2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed (Post 2637443)
Anyone know how long it takes for an internal recommendation to show up on your Pilot Credentials portal? My LOR was apparently submitted by an AA FO a couple of days ago. It says that all letters are reviewed before being approved, anyone have a timeline on this?

It should show up right away, I always have guys check that right away and let me know if not. It’s pretty easy to dork it up on our side and not really submit it. Tell him to look at it.

saywhat 07-19-2018 09:51 AM

So, does proof the recommendation being submitted just show up at the bottom of the references page? For example, I am showing name, email and date submitted of person who made the internal recommendation.
There are no attachments or links to the actual recommendation itself.

SoFloFlyer 07-21-2018 09:41 PM

Anyone have any info on how becoming a DPE might help your application? I’m shooting for 1,000 hours of PIC, bachelors degree (AS Degree in Aviation too if that matters), check airman, but would becoming a DPE help you stand out against other applicants? Don’t have an LOR, but working on networking at the moment so fingers crossed for that. Just don’t want to rely on the flow, but I know chances are bleak getting hired as a OTS hire.

Flying101 07-22-2018 06:25 AM

All you can do is check as many boxes and wait/hope for the phone to ring (email for the video interview). Is there a DPE box? If not I don’t think it’ll make a difference. Letters of recommendation are considered after the interview.

SoFloFlyer 07-22-2018 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Flying101 (Post 2640292)
All you can do is check as many boxes and wait/hope for the phone to ring (email for the video interview). Is there a DPE box? If not I don’t think it’ll make a difference. Letters of recommendation are considered after the interview.

Thanks for the info!

AFTrainerGuy 07-22-2018 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2345784)
That used to be the case, but they've sent out a few emails saying that LOR's were part of the selection process. With that said, I'd bet that they are just saying that to placate the pilots, and that they don't look at them until late in the process, pure guess though...

I flew with one of the pilot interviewers. He said he never saw a letter of rec and his guess was that they are used for points in the algorithm to get a call/might be looked at at the final review level.

AFSOCFlyr 07-22-2018 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by speedbrakearmed (Post 2637443)
Anyone know how long it takes for an internal recommendation to show up on your Pilot Credentials portal? My LOR was apparently submitted by an AA FO a couple of days ago. It says that all letters are reviewed before being approved, anyone have a timeline on this?

Where exactly are the recs supposed to show up? I should have a couple on there (it's been a month since they were submitted) but am not seeing them anywhere. Under the references section I only see folks that I have manually entered, and in the attachments section there is nothing but my resume. Thanks!

aggie02 07-22-2018 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by AFSOCFlyr (Post 2640362)
Where exactly are the recs supposed to show up? I should have a couple on there (it's been a month since they were submitted) but am not seeing them anywhere. Under the references section I only see folks that I have manually entered, and in the attachments section there is nothing but my resume. Thanks!

References tab, bottom of the page, there is a section for recommendations. They show up there.

AFSOCFlyr 07-22-2018 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by aggie02 (Post 2640405)
References tab, bottom of the page, there is a section for recommendations. They show up there.



Thanks. Yeah, nowhere on that page for me is the word “recommendation.” Must just be because none have gotten attached. At least I know I’m not just blind and can go poke some people about it. Thanks again.


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Flying101 07-22-2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy (Post 2640351)
I flew with one of the pilot interviewers. He said he never saw a letter of rec and his guess was that they are used for points in the algorithm to get a call/might be looked at at the final review level.

LOR are used when the hiring board gets together to review the interview results.

Flying101 07-22-2018 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by AFSOCFlyr (Post 2640362)
Where exactly are the recs supposed to show up? I should have a couple on there (it's been a month since they were submitted) but am not seeing them anywhere. Under the references section I only see folks that I have manually entered, and in the attachments section there is nothing but my resume. Thanks!

Not true. LOR of recommendation will show up instantly. Did your AA body put his AA info when submitting the LOR? If he did you should see his name in the referral sections.

AFSOCFlyr 07-22-2018 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Flying101 (Post 2640525)
Not true. LOR of recommendation will show up instantly. Did your AA body put his AA info when submitting the LOR? If he did you should see his name in the referral sections.



I imagine so. They both just asked for the email address associated with my pilotcreds acct, and I know it wasn’t their first time doing it for someone.


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SunDevilPilot 07-22-2018 07:08 PM

Does your application have to be published in order for a LOR to attach to it? I have a LOR from someone I flew with but I don’t see his name where it should be listed. My app is in draft mode right now.

AFSOCFlyr 07-22-2018 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by SunDevilPilot (Post 2640696)
Does your application have to be published in order for a LOR to attach to it? I have a LOR from someone I flew with but I don’t see his name where it should be listed. My app is in draft mode right now.



At risk of sounding dumb, what actually makes your app “published?” It’s not like there is a big green “submit” button. I have all green check marks and my profile status is “complete.” I just want to make sure I’m not missing something here.


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AFTrainerGuy 07-22-2018 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Flying101 (Post 2640523)
LOR are used when the hiring board gets together to review the interview results.

So what he said? Helps you get a interview and then at end of process? I really don’t know. Just relaying what I was told which is usually as valid as “I heard from CKA/jumpseat/van driver/flight attendant”

Sliceback 07-23-2018 06:29 AM

Guy spoke with recruiting guy who runs the program. He said that guys getting called have LOR's. Other officials have said the LOR's aren't reviewed until the final board meeting.

So LOR's appear to be a necessity to get called but aren't looked at until the end of the process.

SunDevilPilot 07-23-2018 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by AFSOCFlyr (Post 2640737)
At risk of sounding dumb, what actually makes your app “published?” It’s not like there is a big green “submit” button. I have all green check marks and my profile status is “complete.” I just want to make sure I’m not missing something here.


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The option is found on the profile summary page, right underneath those green check marks. You can make your application visible or invisible.

Rawhide16 07-24-2018 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by AFSOCFlyr (Post 2640362)
Where exactly are the recs supposed to show up? I should have a couple on there (it's been a month since they were submitted) but am not seeing them anywhere. Under the references section I only see folks that I have manually entered, and in the attachments section there is nothing but my resume. Thanks!

When we submit the rec there is an option for us to check that allows you to see that we submitted the rec. If your buds didn’t select that option you won’t be able to see them.

AFSOCFlyr 07-24-2018 03:18 AM

Thanks!


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Rawhide16 07-24-2018 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by AFSOCFlyr (Post 2640737)
At risk of sounding dumb, what actually makes your app “published?” It’s not like there is a big green “submit” button. I have all green check marks and my profile status is “complete.” I just want to make sure I’m not missing something here.


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On the first page after log in (Profile Summary) about 3/4 of the way down the page under Profile Visibility there are 2 options: Published and Draft Mode. Select Published.

Slowmover 08-01-2018 04:57 PM

I only had one LOR. But I called about 10 days after it got submitted. Hard for me to think that it didn't strengthen my application on the front end.

SoFloFlyer 09-17-2018 03:15 PM

AA Internship
 
Would anyone know the perks of being an AA intern with the CP’snoffice? How much an advantage does this give you when applying outside the flow?

Thanks!

SunDevilPilot 09-19-2018 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2676058)
Would anyone know the perks of being an AA intern with the CP’snoffice? How much an advantage does this give you when applying outside the flow?

Thanks!

An internship in a base CPO can be great, but what might be even better is working at GSW. Much higher chances of interacting with Kimball, Chip, DT of Pilot Recruitment etc. Plus, all the Chiefs come to Dallas every so often, and solid networking skills could theoretically give you facetime with most or even all of them by the time the internship is over.

Swakid8 09-19-2018 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2676058)
Would anyone know the perks of being an AA intern with the CP’snoffice? How much an advantage does this give you when applying outside the flow?



Thanks!


I was a former intern at AA a over a year ago, get to GSW if possible.


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SoFloFlyer 09-19-2018 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2677466)
I was a former intern at AA a over a year ago, get to GSW if possible.


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Excuse the ignorance, but what’s GSW?

Name User 09-19-2018 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2677684)
Excuse the ignorance, but what’s GSW?

The ivory tower ie where they have seven cranes spending our profit sharing checks building a new crystal palace.

I will admit the IOC building looks cool but cool doesn't give you the ability to price tickets any cheaper.

EMBFlyer 09-20-2018 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2677695)
The ivory tower ie where they have seven cranes spending our profit sharing checks building a new crystal palace.

I will admit the IOC building looks cool but cool doesn't give you the ability to price tickets any cheaper.

No, that's HDQ or headquarters. GSW is the Flight Academy.

Al Czervik 09-20-2018 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 2677718)
No, that's HDQ or headquarters. GSW is the Flight Academy.

Good gawd, you’re one of them. I’ll bet you say market bag and jet too.

Slowmover 09-20-2018 10:54 AM

Fun fact (or geeky fact, depending on your point of view) is that GSW is the airport code for Greater Southwest International Airport, the old Ft Worth airport that used to be there. Then DFW came along and now AA's training center is across the street from the old terminal. Part of the taxiway and run-up area of Runway 17 still exists at the northern end of Amon Carter Boulevard, on the north side of 183.

SoFloFlyer 09-20-2018 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2677695)
The ivory tower ie where they have seven cranes spending our profit sharing checks building a new crystal palace.

I will admit the IOC building looks cool but cool doesn't give you the ability to price tickets any cheaper.

Oh okay, thanks for the information! It would be awesome to get face-to-face interaction with them at GSW! Fingers crossed!

Cheddar 09-22-2018 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2677722)
Good gawd, you’re one of them. I’ll bet you say market bag and jet too.



I must be missing something... don’t we fly jets with market bags attached to my arm rest?!?

What’s the unconscious bias term for these things today

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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