AA Class Drops
#1221
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I’d add as we are now going to flight 20/20 and best practices, I would not be shocked to see the 737&airbus, go to how LUS and AWA did quals. It will save them money and is much quicker and not the over kill of how we have made it. Correct me if I’m wrong but it was essentially one 4 hour class. There’s no reason to make it as long and drawn out as we do currently. Add to it the savings AA will see i would not bet against it changing to how LUS and AWA did it soon.
#1222
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At this point there are no immediate plans for the 737 to combine divisions so it will stay Domestic. There is no Intl 737 flying out of the DCA base anymore, anyways. We used to have an Intl 737 bid status here but the trips just went thru Miami and then island hopped. That’s long gone
The 320 however is Intl since it is still not F/A-integrated with LAA (hence the base term “UDC”)... and all LUS bid statuses are automatically combined. So the 320 is Intl even though the only ”quasi Intl” route we have is DCA-Bermuda. Everything else goes thru Charlotte, Philly, Dallas, etc and “island hops” from time to time on the Intl side.
#1226
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Right. And I’m guessing if you’re in non radar you’re probably too far time wise from the shore for domestic. I think it’s kinda stupid and don’t see why they are split in the first place. No other airline that I know of does it but I could be wrong. It’s one thing to have a SWA guy that flies the Texas triangle to fly down there 😉
#1228
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I’d add as we are now going to flight 20/20 and best practices, I would not be shocked to see the 737&airbus, go to how LUS and AWA did quals. It will save them money and is much quicker and not the over kill of how we have made it. Correct me if I’m wrong but it was essentially one 4 hour class. There’s no reason to make it as long and drawn out as we do currently. Add to it the savings AA will see i would not bet against it changing to how LUS and AWA did it soon.
#1229
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Right. And I’m guessing if you’re in non radar you’re probably too far time wise from the shore for domestic. I think it’s kinda stupid and don’t see why they are split in the first place. No other airline that I know of does it but I could be wrong. It’s one thing to have a SWA guy that flies the Texas triangle to fly down there
And as a reserve, it increases the pain factor in some of our bases. In NY, International, most of the trips were out of JFK, with only a couple from LGA. In Miami all but two of the international trips were out of MIA. Now all the reserves in NY will have to worry about LGA and EWR flying, and MIA will have FLL and PBI to deal with.
I know plenty of long time domestic pilots who don't want anything to do with international flying, and a bunch of us International don't want to do domestic flying. I'd be happy to never go north of DFW again. We don't have those options anymore.
#1230
That’s not what determines “international.” It’s in FM 1. Think of it more as an airplane’s time from the nearest piece of land. Crew qualifications and aircraft qualifications are different, as is ETOPS (a whole ‘nother issue).
I stayed awake for most of LIQ last month!
Regardless, Canada and Mexico fall within the domestic category although you will receive international override (after your probie year).
International qual allows you to pick up international coded sequences (even if they are purely domestic legs) even if you are a “domestic” pilot. (I) bid status reserve can also be assigned (D) reserve trips if there are no QLA (D) reserves. It doesn’t work the other way around though.
One of the limiting factors is training for the company, and that takes guys off the line where they are desperately needed. It will happen in all bases eventually, just not anytime soon in some.
Hope that helps!
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I stayed awake for most of LIQ last month!
Regardless, Canada and Mexico fall within the domestic category although you will receive international override (after your probie year).
International qual allows you to pick up international coded sequences (even if they are purely domestic legs) even if you are a “domestic” pilot. (I) bid status reserve can also be assigned (D) reserve trips if there are no QLA (D) reserves. It doesn’t work the other way around though.
One of the limiting factors is training for the company, and that takes guys off the line where they are desperately needed. It will happen in all bases eventually, just not anytime soon in some.
Hope that helps!
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