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Old 11-07-2017, 11:10 AM   #1  
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Default End of 2017 base/equipment seniority

14,700 junior man. Subtract retirement data from apc's airline profile to project future availability as a new hire.

Nearest 100 -

Junior seniority numbers -

n/b FO -

LGA/LAX/DCA/PHL 190 - 14,700
PHX/PHL AB/MIA - 14,600
DFW - 14,400 S80 new hire awards in 2018 will change this to junior manning (14,700)
ORD - 13,800
BOS - 13,500

767 FO -

MIA - 13,500
PHL - 13,400 increasing with LGA closing 2018?
LGA - 13,200 closing in 2018
PHX - 13,000

330 FO -

PHL - 11,900
CLT - 10,400

777 FO -

MIA - 11,500
LGA - 10,900
LAX - 9,900
DFW - 8,800

787 FO -

LAX - 10,500
ORD - 9,700
DFW - 8,300

n/b CA -

LGA - 10,700
MIA - 10,300
LAX - 9,900
DCA - 9,600
PHL - 9,600
CLT - 9,600
DFW - 8,500
PHX - 7,200
BOS - 6,400

767 CA -

PHX - 7,600
PHL - 6,600 changing with LGA closing in 2018?
MIA - 5,500 non TWA protected seniority number
LGA - 5,100 closing in 2018

777 CA -

MIA - 1,900
LAX - 1,500
LGA - 1,300
DFW - 1,200

787 CA -

ORD - 1,600
DFW - 1,400
LAX - 1,400
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:20 AM   #2  
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Where did you hear LGA 767 is closing in 2018. Everything I saw said "possible further reductions"
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:53 AM   #3  
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Whats the number of the first post SLI pilot? Your 2013 hires were part of the SLI correct?
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Where did you hear LGA 767 is closing in 2018. Everything I saw said "possible further reductions"
Vasu's video on Jetnet. Hopefully I didn't screw that up. I thought he said LGA 767 will be gone by the end of 2018.

767's moving to PHL/MIA, sometime in the future PHL will be the last 767 base (that's a decade away so really subject to change).

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Old 11-07-2017, 12:00 PM   #5  
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Junior seniority numbers -

n/b FO -

LGA/LAX/DCA/PHL 190 - 14,700
PHX/PHL AB/MIA - 14,600
DFW - 14,400 S80 new hire awards in 2018 will change this to junior manning (14,700)
CLT - 14,400
ORD - 13,800
BOS - 13,500


Missed CLT n/b FO.
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Whats the number of the first post SLI pilot? Your 2013 hires were part of the SLI correct?


The first 2011 Airways guys are around 11,2XX. Mid 2013 is around 12,0XX.

Everyone hired before Dec 13 was included in the SLI.

Edit: read your question wrong.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:38 PM   #7  
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Whats the number of the first post SLI pilot? Your 2013 hires were part of the SLI correct?
That'd be a Jan 2014 hire and as of July about 12625ish, if shuffled today around 12450 probably.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #8  
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There are guys/gals senior to the lowest numbers posted still trying to bid into some bases.
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There are guys/gals senior to the lowest numbers posted still trying to bid into some bases.
Agreed. Itís wrong to think if you get to X seniority youíll be able to bid into a base/equipment/seat. Sometimes it goes junior and takes a long time, or perhaps never, to reach that seniority again. Or guys never cycle out and the bid status stagnates. BOS is an example of that. It tends to be hard to get into because there are few opportunities.
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There are guys/gals senior to the lowest numbers posted still trying to bid into some bases.
APA screwed us on that.

We have some new hires going to all kind of G3 airplanes with many, many people senior to them bidding that stuff.....

Itís what happens when you pass the very worst work rules and protections in modern history.
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