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Old 11-10-2017, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Reality is, unless they are taking your resume or associating your name with your face, tracking your attendance, and/or scoring your app, this is a colossal waste of time for those attending. Simple app questions can be asked/answered on AA.pilotcredentials. This "not your mamas job fair" was supposed to be different.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:42 PM
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The feedback I've gotten from my squadron bros has been positive.

Many app questions were answered.

Face time with Tatum, Taylor, Seymour.... face to face with the hiring folks is never a bad thing.... Just don't drop an f bomb.

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Exactly. After that was announced, the guys that stayed in the corners and pouted are not the guys we want to hire. The guys that took it on the chin, made the best of the situation and had a good time WERE noticed and tracked and will likely be getting the call.

Ask yourself, of the two reactions to the announcement, which guy is most likely to deal with the uncertainties and changes in AA operation, work together with the team and pull of a successful operation. Hint: it's not the entitled little bi...hes.
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Old 11-10-2017, 05:03 PM
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Exactly. After that was announced, the guys that stayed in the corners and pouted are not the guys we want to hire. The guys that took it on the chin, made the best of the situation and had a good time WERE noticed and tracked and will likely be getting the call.

Ask yourself, of the two reactions to the announcement, which guy is most likely to deal with the uncertainties and changes in AA operation, work together with the team and pull of a successful operation. Hint: it's not the entitled little bi...hes.
I agree (sorta) but it's kinda a total dick move to make that announcement after the fact.

People go to job fairs with the expectation that they showed effort to come out and try to get face time vs. someone filling out an app on the internet in their parent's basement.
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Old 11-10-2017, 05:29 PM
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Exactly. After that was announced, the guys that stayed in the corners and pouted are not the guys we want to hire. The guys that took it on the chin, made the best of the situation and had a good time WERE noticed and tracked and will likely be getting the call.

Ask yourself, of the two reactions to the announcement, which guy is most likely to deal with the uncertainties and changes in AA operation, work together with the team and pull of a successful operation. Hint: it's not the entitled little bi...hes.
Hmmm. How did they know who stayed? The first name only on everyones name tag? It certainly wasnt putting a face to my resume. The recruiter I talked to didn't even know my (or anybody else's) last name.

Not entitled. But having guys drop $ (in my case $1200) and spend days away from home and not even track attendance is super uncool.
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Had a squadron mate that went. He said it was a total waste and talked to many disappointed folks that were COMPLETELY UNDERWHELMED with our company’s ‘job fair.’

Although my buddy drove up and didn’t lose much, he said people flew in from across the country and felt totally ripped off. After hearing his story, I was flat out embarrassed for our military members that spent $$$$ and time to attend, and embarrassed as an employee.

This is a bad trend, and we aren’t batting very well. We are better than this. Aren’t we?


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Had a squadron mate that went. He said it was a total waste and talked to many disappointed folks that were COMPLETELY UNDERWHELMED with our company’s ‘job fair.’

Although my buddy drove up and didn’t lose much, he said people flew in from across the country and felt totally ripped off. After hearing his story, I was flat out embarrassed for our military members that spent $$$$ and time to attend, and embarrassed as an employee.

This is a bad trend, and we aren’t batting very well. We are better than this. Aren’t we?


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That’s how I felt about every job fair in 2011-2012. What’s changed?
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:44 PM
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Guys.....

This sort of thing ain’t hard to figure out. All this “we don’t keep track of resumes” probably means “we very much do, but just want to see who gets ****ed off by reverse psychology.”

All airlines play that game to some extent.
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Old 11-12-2017, 08:45 AM
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Hmmm. How did they know who stayed? The first name only on everyones name tag? It certainly wasnt putting a face to my resume. The recruiter I talked to didn't even know my (or anybody else's) last name.

Not entitled. But having guys drop $ (in my case $1200) and spend days away from home and not even track attendance is super uncool.
Trust me, they got the last names of the guys that got put on the short list. Look, I’m not justifying the game or the system. If you really want to be an AA pilot, roll with the punches and stay positive. If you are the type of person to get easily frustrated and give up, you’re probably a better fit at United.
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Trust me, they got the last names of the guys that got put on the short list. Look, I’m not justifying the game or the system. If you really want to be an AA pilot, roll with the punches and stay positive. If you are the type of person to get easily frustrated and give up, you’re probably a better fit at United.
This really goes along the lines of AA's mgmt historically innate ability to say things that would be best left unsaid, despite the way they feel.

When the CEO says that PS is a dumb way to pay employees since they have little bearing on whether the company makes a profit, that should have been left unsaid, despite whether the CEO actually believes that is a fact or not.

When the briefer says that being there has little/no benefit in the pilots quest to join AA directly to the pilots who went out of their way to be there, it goes down as a fact best left unsaid. If the briefer had instead left it ambiguous, it would have at least kept hope alive, instead of feeling like your first kick in the junk by airline mgmt.
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Almost ALL of the OTS hires are military. I think you're in a good spot, even if AA f'd up this job fair.

At least you don't have to go to multiple WIA and OBAP job fairs...talk about spending some $$

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