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Old 11-19-2017, 08:18 PM
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I finally got the interview with AA next month. Does anyone know any new hires there? I just heard from an Envoy friend that the interview is impossible without prep, they don't pay as well as UA and Delta, and they just recently got all their furloughed pilots back so if they have any problems or slow down last new hires in could be out on the street.
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Old 11-20-2017, 03:07 AM
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If you are 25 like your name and writing style suggests you'll most likely retire in the top 10 at the company.

Do you have interviews anywhere else? If not why does it matter what AA pays vs the others?

I wouldn't worry about what some Envoy guy says.
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Old 11-20-2017, 03:52 AM
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Your Envoy friend is an idiot.

The interview is not "impossible without prep" but you should definitely do it. It will set you at ease because you have a good idea of what to expect going into the interview. That said, it may be too late to do the prep face-to-face (which is the best way to do it) but you may be able to do it over the phone.

We may not pay as well as UA or Delta, but the pay scales shouldn't be the only thing you're looking at.

The last sentence is so ridiculous I almost don't want to acknowledge it, but I will. Our furlough returns would have nothing to do with a new hire being "out on the street." You being a new hire would be the only reason you would be out on the street. It's strictly seniority and the same could be said of any airline. Tell your dip**** friend to look at AA's retirement numbers and see if he is smart enough to estimate the number of new hires we need to keep the place running. Short of a catastrophe, nobody is going out on the street.
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Old 11-20-2017, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by aajohnston1992 View Post
I finally got the interview with AA next month. Does anyone know any new hires there? I just heard from an Envoy friend that the interview is impossible without prep, they don't pay as well as UA and Delta, and they just recently got all their furloughed pilots back so if they have any problems or slow down last new hires in could be out on the street.
Cancel the interview
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I have to agree with the responses to your OP. Be prepared, but be yourself. You’ll do fine. Does your friend wear a bike helmet per chance?
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Originally Posted by aajohnston1992 View Post
I finally got the interview with AA next month. Does anyone know any new hires there? I just heard from an Envoy friend that the interview is impossible without prep, they don't pay as well as UA and Delta, and they just recently got all their furloughed pilots back so if they have any problems or slow down last new hires in could be out on the street.
Pay for interview prep.

You’ll always at risk of a furlough if you’re junior on a seniority list if stuff goes south. It’s a factor of how long you’ll be junior. AAs retirement wave hits much earlier than the others, which means you’ll be better positioned to clear the bottom 30% of the seniority list, sooner.

Do you have offers from anyone else? If not go with AA.
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Troll post? Please tell me it is.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:41 AM
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Troll post? Please tell me it is.
I’m unsure of how a guy experienced enough to get a call wouldn’t understand the seniority system. I did enjoy the bike helmet comment.
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We may not pay as well as UA or Delta, but the pay scales shouldn't be the only thing you're looking at.
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Yes but AA trails UAL and DAL in virtually every contract measure by a wide margin. AA is a distant third among legacies for total compensation and quality of life. The only advantage to AA is the higher retirement numbers, which is significant. If APA can ever get its act together then AA could be a fantastic career. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like that's about to happen on the next contract cycle. The membership is used to working for less and largely tuned out. APA seems to be a political mess. But it's still a great job. Just be mentally prepared to work more days for less money than your DAL, UAL, SWA, FEDEX, and UPS buddies.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
I’m unsure of how a guy experienced enough to get a call wouldn’t understand the seniority system. I did enjoy the bike helmet comment.
My troll detector is going off pretty hard..... But-amazing idiots do exist. (A certain captain out west who writes books and makes videos-which kiss his own ass-comes right to mind.....)

If the OP is legit, $10 says he shows up to the interview on a skateboard.

I bet the regionals have some real good stories.
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