Al Czervik

According to Carey email.

TQ Nola

Didn’t say that explicitly, though I hope you’re correct and ‘duty rig improvements’ translates.

mainlineAF

I’m shocked lol

Cheddar

“LOS and Duty Rig Improvements

"The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them." - Ernest Hemingway

Fellow Pilots,

By now many of you have likely heard about our meeting with American Airlines President Robert Isom last Friday concerning our presidential grievance over December TTS/TTOT premium flying.

As our team worked through the grievance, we took the opportunity to discuss with Mr. Isom a final resolution to LOS and duty rig improvements. Mr. Isom committed to doing so on an expedited timeline as early as possible, but no later than mid-January 2018.

We fully expect Mr. Isom to validate our trust by fulfilling his commitment.

While we are well aware of the trust deficit that has long existed between our pilots and management, building the world's greatest airline will have to be done on a foundation of trust.

Likewise, we acknowledge the well-founded skepticism that some of you will feel as you read this message. However, Mr. Hemingway made a valid point, that the best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them. That is what we have chosen to do with Mr. Isom. Fundamentally, we all want the same thing: to make American Airlines the safest, most reliable, and most profitable airline in the world.

We want to thank the hard-working APA volunteers who were instrumental in achieving the progress we have made, and look forward to announcing the final details of the LOS and duty rig improvements. We also look forward to continuing our momentum in the coming months”

I’ll be the first to say good on you Dan. I was verrrrrry upset, and I’d happily apologize if this comes to pass.

LOS was needed. It doesn’t affect me as an early 2014 hire, but it does speak to the union taking care of the least of us.




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OVBIII

Y'all,

I understand the "min calendar day" definition. How can I get smarter on "duty rig" definition, and "duty rig" improvements? can they ever be interchangeable as far as definitions go?

viper548

Duty rig could be a number of things- and improvement to the average duty period we have now, min calendar day, 2:1 on duty rate, 3.5:1 trip rig, etc. Min calendar day is the weak spot in our duty rigs and thus the focus of the pilot group.

OVBIII

Thanks for helping me understand. I need to get smarter on this stuff.

biigD

Yeah, call me skeptical, but all I got out of that e-mail is that Isom agreed to talk about it.

I'd love to be wrong, though - min calendar day would be nice.

Smoke Toliet

It’s just bringing us to industry standard average min day. It’s NOT a calendar min day. I don’t think APA knows the difference. If we do get it, it helps the slash trips but not much more. I’m glad the LOS guys/gals are getting made square. Part of me still feels we left some on the table and APA screwed the pooch. Time to move on and not dwell on what might of been real gains.

mainlineAF

THANK YOU!

Min calendar day IS NOT average calendar day. People use the terms interchangeably but they are very different.

UA and DL have average calendar day. That is what we will get as well if not some sort of long rate rig. It will be a big improvement.

They gave us pay raises and profit sharing. I’m betting they honor their word.