Avg Calendar Day, LOS approved
12-21-2017, 08:34 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: Airbus button pusher
Posts: 2,447
Originally Posted by sumwherelse
F what up???? This whole thing is a joke and is already f’d up! I wouldn’t mind at all if they said shove it.
Cue the it’s more than we had idiots—
Cue the it’s more than we had idiots—
Call me an idiot.
12-21-2017, 09:20 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by Saabs
Cite the specific reasons. What did we give up? Be super specific because it’s better than we had. Granted maybe they gave up too much, which is why you need to be very specific on the details but.....
Call me an idiot.
Call me an idiot.
I don’t think this is one of those bills we need to “pass to see what’s in it”
12-21-2017, 09:43 PM
#13
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Joined APC: May 2005
Position: B777/CA retired
Posts: 1,482
Not real happy about the 9 month free pass to the company. If they really wanted to implement this it could have been done by doing pay/no credit until the training and IT issues were resolved.
I understand that this may cause a staffing shortage of about 150 pilots needed to fly the extra hours imposed by the new rig. By keeping the present hours and paying us the difference via PNC the company could stay on the timetable announced for full,implementation yet compensate us for the woeful contract we are under. I understand why were are here, I’d just like to see us move past as quickly as possible.
I understand that this may cause a staffing shortage of about 150 pilots needed to fly the extra hours imposed by the new rig. By keeping the present hours and paying us the difference via PNC the company could stay on the timetable announced for full,implementation yet compensate us for the woeful contract we are under. I understand why were are here, I’d just like to see us move past as quickly as possible.
12-22-2017, 03:37 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 85
Originally Posted by cactusmike
Not real happy about the 9 month free pass to the company. If they really wanted to implement this it could have been done by doing pay/no credit until the training and IT issues were resolved.
I understand that this may cause a staffing shortage of about 150 pilots needed to fly the extra hours imposed by the new rig..
I understand that this may cause a staffing shortage of about 150 pilots needed to fly the extra hours imposed by the new rig..
I have my doubts about that. I say it’s more likely a one for one no additional bodies needed. Think about all the trips that they won’t need reserves for anymore... this makes it worth leaving the house.
Time will tell
12-22-2017, 04:07 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,293
Originally Posted by cactusmike
Not real happy about the 9 month free pass to the company. If they really wanted to implement this it could have been done by doing pay/no credit until the training and IT issues were resolved.
I understand that this may cause a staffing shortage of about 150 pilots needed to fly the extra hours imposed by the new rig. By keeping the present hours and paying us the difference via PNC the company could stay on the timetable announced for full,implementation yet compensate us for the woeful contract we are under. I understand why were are here, I’d just like to see us move past as quickly as possible.
I understand that this may cause a staffing shortage of about 150 pilots needed to fly the extra hours imposed by the new rig. By keeping the present hours and paying us the difference via PNC the company could stay on the timetable announced for full,implementation yet compensate us for the woeful contract we are under. I understand why were are here, I’d just like to see us move past as quickly as possible.
12-22-2017, 05:05 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: CA
Posts: 483
Originally Posted by sumwherelse
F what up???? This whole thing is a joke and is already f’d up! I wouldn’t mind at all if they said shove it.
Cue the it’s more than we had idiots—
Cue the it’s more than we had idiots—
12-22-2017, 05:53 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 6th place
Posts: 1,826
Originally Posted by Saabs
Cite the specific reasons. What did we give up? Be super specific because it’s better than we had. Granted maybe they gave up too much, which is why you need to be very specific on the details but.....
Call me an idiot.
Call me an idiot.
Idiot...
12-22-2017, 06:39 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 400
Originally Posted by SilverandSore
Or cue the folks that take this as having to use less negotiating capital to get it in the next contract thus freeing up capital to work on further improvements to things we now have, those idiots? Hmmm, profit sharing, 8% bump and avg day credit in the last year, I’d say we’ve done better than expected. Given that APA agreed to this huge pile of sh!t with a cost neutral arbitration as a back stop, we’ve done pretty well.
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