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Old 01-15-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sumwherelse View Post
Haha. Good luck!!! Once you give away scheduling “issues” you ain’t getting them back!!
Well we're getting min day back so that would seem to invalidate your statement.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:15 AM
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Well we're getting min day back so that would seem to invalidate your statement.
This agreement gets us average calendar day, not min.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:16 AM
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Not sure what my age has to do with it. But yea I’ve got a long time left here.

I’d rather negotiate to fix these scheduling issues when section 6 comes than try and negotiate LOS/ACD.
Your age is important because you have a long time left here. Our motivations should be fixing the language here and strengthening the union, not selling out for a few dollars (ACD/rigs) in the short term.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:18 AM
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I just read the MIA base blast from ES. This agreement isn’t without its issues I’ll give him that. But, he’s making a mountain out of a molehill here.

He loses all credibility when he tries to insinuate that ACD will be bad for a lot of guys bc the trips will be longer and less commutable. While there will be some 5 days AW has already proven both of those will not be a major issue. How many 11 hr 3 days does MIA have? Lots.

He doesn’t even mention LOS. I’d be highly upset if i was a furloughee. This guy is way out in left field.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sumwherelse View Post
Haha. Good luck!!! Once you give away scheduling “issues” you ain’t getting them back!!


ACD isn’t scheduling related?
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234 View Post
Yes, but are you stable?

I’m stable and on target
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary View Post
Just wondering, could you or some others who want a yes vote present more specific arguments for why you think the no voters are wrong? I admit I'm an outsider looking in (will flow to AA soon) but this will affect me eventually. The post with the MIA email includes what look to me like some great reasons to oppose this. It would be helpful to hear actual, specific counterpoints.


Yea. ACD and LOS are huge. They are so much bigger than what we’re “giving up” but people are minimizing how important they are. And it’s a better starting place when we get to section 6.

If you want a good recap spend 45 mins on LOSNOW.org listening to AWs podcast. It’s time we’ll spent.

Look I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to not give anything up. If we can get everything we want then awesome. But if this comes down to a take it or leave it then we should take it.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
Yea. ACD and LOS are huge. They are so much bigger than what we’re “giving up” but people are minimizing how important they are. And it’s a better starting place when we get to section 6.

If you want a good recap spend 45 mins on LOSNOW.org listening to AWs podcast. It’s time we’ll spent.

Look I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to not give anything up. If we can get everything we want then awesome. But if this comes down to a take it or leave it then we should take it.
Agreed.... besides trust tell me why they will implement it. Financially there is no reason to do so and history is not on their side
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
Yea. ACD and LOS are huge. They are so much bigger than what we’re “giving up” but people are minimizing how important they are. And it’s a better starting place when we get to section 6.

If you want a good recap spend 45 mins on LOSNOW.org listening to AWs podcast. It’s time we’ll spent.

Look I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to not give anything up. If we can get everything we want then awesome. But if this comes down to a take it or leave it then we should take it.
Check's in the mail. Why are we paying nearly a year before we get ACD?

The company desperately wants electronic notification and the bigger RO window now.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:02 AM
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So much fear mongering surrounding this AIP. The hysterical mad-at-the-world, burn-the-place-down mentality is killing our culture.
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