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Old 01-28-2018, 05:06 AM
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Just curious. Does American allow pilots to "cross tune" radios? For those who may not know what I mean, I am talking about the modern style radio control panel that can be used to control any radio. In the planes that have that style of radio is the right seater permitted to control VHF L frequency from their side?

At UAL it's standard practice on the Airbus, but on the 777 some old time captain's don't allow it and require that the VHF R control panel always be tuned to VHF R only.

Anyways, just wondering?
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Not that I can think of... AA standard practice is to always transmit to ATC on VHF1 and company/Ramp/Guard On VHF 2. So the PM always changes ATC frequencies on the CA’s side VHF1, I have never seen or heard of the FO controlling VHF1 from his/her side.
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Not that I can think of... AA standard practice is to always transmit to ATC on VHF1 and company/Ramp/Guard On VHF 2. So the PM always changes ATC frequencies on the CA’s side VHF1, I have never seen or heard of the FO controlling VHF1 from his/her side.
I guess that’s a Boeing thing. Because on the bus there’s no rules about which radio you are permitted to tune. Ridiculous. Sorry.
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A lot of stupid procedures on the Boeing at AA. Do you UAL guys guard the throttles on Boeing?
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A lot of stupid procedures on the Boeing at AA. Do you UAL guys guard the throttles on Boeing?
It's allowed and a few old timers still do, but it's mostly disappearing.

I really find the tuning panel issue incredible. It's called a "radio tuning panel" because it tunes . . . wait for it . . . radioS plural not just VHF R, but heh who am I to argue with Luddites.

Sadly ran into this on my second to last trip as an FO. Luckily I only have one more trip as an FO and I'm off to training as an Airbus captain in EWR. Who knew it would be 22 years to make captain. (I should preface that by admitting I waited and will be 31% in base.)
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AB it’s common. Not done on the Boeing. Nothing prohibits it but guys don’t. Setting HF freqs is about the only place I see it done or setting 121.5/123.45 for overwater portions. .
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Two points:

First, when everybody flies with different people all the time, standardization establishes normal expectations and reduces the potential for confusion. The particular way of doing it is not as important as is doing it the same way all the time. Habits and muscle memory are usually more efficient than having to stop and look and think before acting.

Second, have you considered what works and what doesn't in an Emergency Power situation? It's possible that the standard way or preferred way is actually the preferred way or even the only way if functionality is lost during an abnormal event.






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Second, have you considered what works and what doesn't in an Emergency Power situation? It's possible that the standard way or preferred way is actually the preferred way or even the only way if functionality is lost during an abnormal event.






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If this is the case, ramp on 2 in the bus wasn’t well thought out.
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If this is the case, ramp on 2 in the bus wasn’t well thought out.
ATC on #1 makes even more sense. Stop the plane on the ramp. If it’s bad call ground on #1. That’s where the important help is.
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Originally Posted by Sunvox View Post
Just curious. Does American allow pilots to "cross tune" radios? For those who may not know what I mean, I am talking about the modern style radio control panel that can be used to control any radio. In the planes that have that style of radio is the right seater permitted to control VHF L frequency from their side?
On the airbus yes.
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