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Old 02-17-2018, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebert Xela View Post
I’m a new hire and I honestly don’t fully understand what this means. I’m a commuter; so if I book my commute to get to work and someone senior to me wants to travel D2 for a vacation, they can bump me due to seniority alone?

Again I’m just trying to fully grasp what this means... thanks
No this isn’t what it means at all. It has nothing to do with non rev travel. Currently, an AA pilot can reserve the JS 8 days prior and if it’s open...it’s theirs. The original hybrid proposal was the first few days seniority rules, so a more senior pilot can take the reservation from the jr guy until maybe 3 or 5 days out. Then it would lock in to whoever’s got it, or if still open, would be first come first serve.

That’s assuming they use that original proposal. Which is really the only way a hybrid system could work. If you reverse it, it’d be pointless and just be a pure seniority system. I’ve not met a single pilot, LAA/LUS/AWA/TWA etc, that wants to change the current system.

I’m now at a base that has far more OAL commute options for me, and the threat of this hybrid system was in my decision matrix to choose this base over DFW.
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:35 PM
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Why is it just AA that you hear about this kind of nonsense at?
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:53 PM
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I’m stepping down from the committee so no longer in the loop on what goes on... However, nothing surprises me anymore. Send those soundoffs.
I'm sorry to hear that, but don't blame you. You did a great job, thanks!
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:55 PM
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Why is it just AA that you hear about this kind of nonsense at?


Well to be fair i think UA and SWA jumpseat’s are straight seniority.

But yea the shenanigans are ridiculous.
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:59 PM
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When you hear someone say that jumpseat should be by seniority because they have XX years of blood, sweat and tears and thus should go first...just remind them that our seniority list is not by DOH and chances are there are folks here with more LOS. Perhaps, that if they want jumpseat by seniority, you know-for the time, they should support jumpseat by DOH. Usually quiets them, for a while.
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Old 02-17-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
When you hear someone say that jumpseat should be by seniority because they have XX years of blood, sweat and tears and thus should go first...just remind them that our seniority list is not by DOH and chances are there are folks here with more LOS. Perhaps, that if they want jumpseat by seniority, you know-for the time, they should support jumpseat by DOH. Usually quiets them, for a while.
I kinda disagree with what you are trying to say because you know what they are talking about. Seniority is by seniority list.
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Old 02-17-2018, 04:24 PM
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WTF with these people. I will never understand our propensity to be our worst enemies.


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Old 02-17-2018, 04:25 PM
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I will be voting for a complete change in DFW!


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Old 02-17-2018, 04:36 PM
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I kinda disagree with what you are trying to say because you know what they are talking about. Seniority is by seniority list.
Yeah, but the argument is for time served, right?

You ever notice how some LAA guy complain about former AWA guys with less LOS being senior to them, but think nothing of the LUS east guys that are in the same boat as they are?

Of course they are arguing for seniority list, it's what favors them most.
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Old 02-17-2018, 04:40 PM
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Name user- were you LUS?

At LUS, did we pass ride by seniority, or DOH?
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