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bingo17 02-25-2018 09:05 PM

DCA Seniority
 
Is DCA considered one of the more senior domiciles? Any WAGs on how long it might take a new guy to hold a line?

Apologies if there is a thread already addressing this question...I struck out in my search.

Thanks!

hercengmech 02-26-2018 02:17 AM

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/a...seniority.html

hercengmech 02-26-2018 02:18 AM

Might help a little. Doesn’t really answer your line holder question though. Sliceback would know, though.

Clint 02-26-2018 02:21 AM

No, it's not senior. A few months ago guys were getting 737s straight out of indoc. I don't think you wait more than one or two award cycles to get there if you're on the 737.

Battlinbear21 02-26-2018 05:23 AM

This is what I’ve been hearing, and seeing as well. All the Pdt guys who wanted DC they got it before ever finishing or starting IOE. Believe the next base bid is August? Also heard RSV is sr so getting a block or line would be quicker than you think. Curious what the March 5th class is gonna be comprised of. Lot of 73 is trend continues.

PRS Guitars 02-26-2018 09:05 AM

As of our June vacancy bid, lowest FO’s:

737 Nov 2017 hire
320 May 2017 hire.

Mover 02-26-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by bingo17 (Post 2537252)
Is DCA considered one of the more senior domiciles? Any WAGs on how long it might take a new guy to hold a line?

Apologies if there is a thread already addressing this question...I struck out in my search.

Thanks!

I spent a month there. Lineholders are pretty junior.. 85%ish.

Sliceback 02-27-2018 08:30 AM

The current junior pilot in the DCA (not UDC) base is 3 months LOS. In other words almost no delay after IOE is done.

But none of this is linear. In June the next group of junior pilots will have seven months on property. Will the next group be 3 months, 7 months, or longer? No one knows.

Current list is 14,861.
Junior UDC (320) is 14,478.
Junior DCA is 14,675. 14,781 in June.

Lastest three months junior line holder -

UDC - 14,132, 14,420, 14,094
DCA - 14,652, 14,551, 14,427

Number from the bottom guy in base, latest three months line holder -

UDC - 12, 2, 13
DCA - 8, 12, 16.

700-900 new hires this year. You can try and estimate the time to get to DCA/UDC by figuring out the difference between the current list vs the DCA/UDC seniority numbers. But if there’s no movement in DCA/UDC the estimates will be worthless. If there’s lots of movement the estimates will be too pessimistic.

Kebert Xela 02-27-2018 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2538484)
The current junior pilot in the DCA (not UDC) base is 3 months LOS. In other words almost no delay after IOE is done.

But none of this is linear. In June the next group of junior pilots will have seven months on property. Will the next group be 3 months, 7 months, or longer? No one knows.

Current list is 14,861.
Junior UDC (320) is 14,478.
Junior DCA is 14,675. 14,781 in June.

Lastest three months junior line holder -

UDC - 14,132, 14,420, 14,094
DCA - 14,652, 14,551, 14,427

Number from the bottom guy in base, latest three months line holder -

UDC - 12, 2, 13
DCA - 8, 12, 16.

700-900 new hires this year. You can try and estimate the time to get to DCA/UDC by figuring out the difference between the current list vs the DCA/UDC seniority numbers. But if there’s no movement in DCA/UDC the estimates will be worthless. If there’s lots of movement the estimates will be too pessimistic.


Hey Slice new hire here. When I look at 3xp I see 14912 as the lowest number. Is there somewhere else to look to see a more accurate number? APA site maybe? Not quibbling just learning.

PRS Guitars 02-27-2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Kebert Xela (Post 2538844)
Hey Slice new hire here. When I look at 3xp I see 14912 as the lowest number. Is there somewhere else to look to see a more accurate number? APA site maybe? Not quibbling just learning.

There are 2 3XP’s. The aapilots one is good for future forecasting. The one on the APA site is much better in general and for an accurate picture of right now (or next month after the 16th). Probably the best tool is the PBS report.


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