Exactly! I'm a fan. I think it reduces workload and enhances situational awareness.

It's been a procedure on both Boeing airplanes I've been on since 2014.

Not that I’m a fan of it, but it is a procedure in Airbus OM VOL 1, section 2.5.15

You don’t think we should do things that work?

Well no! They weren't invented here, so they can't be any good! Dop! Where you been, Al?

Exactly. Thank you. Just like the mechanical checklist (long proven to be a huge safety improvement, which is why it is now in electronic form on most aircraft.) And many other LAA procedures that not only “work” but are proven to be safe day in and day out.

Sorry but the constant LUS rants on LAA just get old after awhile. You guys are starting to sound like broken records. Reading some of your stuff, one would think that LUS was the Golden Mecca Standard for all aviation things made in perfection, with LAA crashing a plane once a day.

There's more than one way to safely operate an aircraft. It does get annoying when one group thinks that only their procedures are better or superior than others. Even Gann wrote about this attitude in "Fate is the Hunter". And he was AA.

Many of the LUS procedures were developed after 5 terrible years of accidents. Many turned out to be industry-leading. So LUS has a pretty good record as well.

**WHO** is saying that our way is better or superior? I hear that a whole bunch from you guys. And not one person can prove it. In fact when we first got the Airbuses, LAA were the ones that adopted the LUS way to operate it since you guys had way more experience with it. As it should be.

Ernie Gann, really?? You’re quoting from a book talking about the 1940s. News flash, Every airline pilot group was like that back then. Things have changed just a little since then. Yes, even we have.

Look, LAA is far from perfect and Lord knows we do some stuff different (just like ever other airline), but our procedures work and are safe. Otherise, you’d be reading about us in the news a lot more.

When we adopted some LUS things in the past, did you ever see me complaining about it here? No matter how silly I thought it was.... my attitude has always been, “they must have a dang good reason for doing it that way.”

Your life will vastly improve if you adopt that attitude. Trust me.

Been awhile since I’ve been on a legacy AA Jumpseat. I can’t remember how the mechanical checklist worked but seemed pretty cool.

How does it work? Does it assure the critical items are checked or does it remind you of what checklists are completed, or both? I know our 777s have an Electronic Checklists and guys absolutely love it.

Just curious, and thanks!

It works just like an electronic checklist... but it’s manual. You call out the items that are lit up, in order, and when they’re read back/confirmed done, you close out the tabs. It’s only for the essential items on the Before TO and Before Landing checklists, everything else is on card stock.

It is a great safety tool.