47 787’s Coming
04-07-2018, 06:52 AM
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Net loss of what, some 60 something airplanes (after being down over 50 from the merger)? If not more? First thought that came to my mind was the company is predicting a recession right around the corner.
JetBlue and SWA continue to expand with growing load factor showing they are able to fill the seats.
I got a kick out of Doug and his "business model". I would love to point out in a crew news that SWA has half the airplanes AAG has yet makes almost as much money. Maybe his favored "business model" is crap and we need a new one?
JetBlue and SWA continue to expand with growing load factor showing they are able to fill the seats.
I got a kick out of Doug and his "business model". I would love to point out in a crew news that SWA has half the airplanes AAG has yet makes almost as much money. Maybe his favored "business model" is crap and we need a new one?
04-07-2018, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Net loss of what, some 60 something airplanes (after being down over 50 from the merger)? If not more? First thought that came to my mind was the company is predicting a recession right around the corner.
JetBlue and SWA continue to expand with growing load factor showing they are able to fill the seats.
I got a kick out of Doug and his "business model". I would love to point out in a crew news that SWA has half the airplanes AAG has yet makes almost as much money. Maybe his favored "business model" is crap and we need a new one?
JetBlue and SWA continue to expand with growing load factor showing they are able to fill the seats.
I got a kick out of Doug and his "business model". I would love to point out in a crew news that SWA has half the airplanes AAG has yet makes almost as much money. Maybe his favored "business model" is crap and we need a new one?
And AAGs revenue in 2017 was twice was SWAs was.
SWA also cherry pics profitable routes and doesn't fly into the smaller airports that the regionals do.
(Wikipedia Numbers)
04-07-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
707 is half of 951? Common core much?
And AAGs revenue in 2017 was twice was SWAs was.
SWA also cherry pics profitable routes and doesn't fly into the smaller airports that the regionals do.
(Wikipedia Numbers)
And AAGs revenue in 2017 was twice was SWAs was.
SWA also cherry pics profitable routes and doesn't fly into the smaller airports that the regionals do.
(Wikipedia Numbers)
By 2020 we will lose an additional 18, 15 of them mainline, not including the just announced reduction. SWA is growing at 5%+ per year, maybe we should start cherry picking these same routes.
SWA's model is superior which was my point. Less than half the planes, half the employees, growing not shrinking, yet almost the same net income? Maybe our business model needs a rework.
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04-07-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
AAG currently has 1544 aircraft in 2018 according to the fleet plan on the IR site.
SWA's model is superior which was my point. Less than half the planes, half the employees, growing not shrinking, yet almost the same net income? Maybe our business model needs a rework.
It doesn't take much to see the differences in business models and customer bases. There are more similarities between SWA and Allegiant than there are SWA and AA. If you would rather work for an airline that's half the size (by your definition) and makes more money, knock yourself out. Me, I'd like to retire off of those 787s we're ordering.
04-07-2018, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
It’s only not bad if the 737s that they said they were parking less than a month ago stick around longer. That means at least 40 of them.
Yes I saw the oasis project on the video. They didn’t say how many get oasis.
Yes I saw the oasis project on the video. They didn’t say how many get oasis.
04-07-2018, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Net loss of what, some 60 something airplanes (after being down over 50 from the merger)? If not more? First thought that came to my mind was the company is predicting a recession right around the corner.
JetBlue and SWA continue to expand with growing load factor showing they are able to fill the seats.
I got a kick out of Doug and his "business model". I would love to point out in a crew news that SWA has half the airplanes AAG has yet makes almost as much money. Maybe his favored "business model" is crap and we need a new one?
JetBlue and SWA continue to expand with growing load factor showing they are able to fill the seats.
I got a kick out of Doug and his "business model". I would love to point out in a crew news that SWA has half the airplanes AAG has yet makes almost as much money. Maybe his favored "business model" is crap and we need a new one?
Mainline is losing 60 airplanes?
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