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Old 05-01-2018, 06:54 PM
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Default Jumpseat war getting heated again.

If you're in dfw they apparently sent out an email to vote on your preference for j/s system. The golden girls over on c&r are also apparently livid at a resolution that either passed or is going to pass and starting a letter writing campaign to their reps.

If you care about keeping the fcfs and haven't let your reps know then now would be a good time to do so.
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Get heated all you want company doesn’t have to change anything regardless of APA
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If you're in dfw they apparently sent out an email to vote on your preference for j/s system. The golden girls over on c&r are also apparently livid at a resolution that either passed or is going to pass and starting a letter writing campaign to their reps.

If you care about keeping the fcfs and haven't let your reps know then now would be a good time to do so.
What’s the resolution?
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It’s a poll about the j/s -
Option 1 - keep it the same as now, options 2/3- hybrid with differing times for seniority v fcfs.

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Why don’t these old beastards bent on screwing everyone just retire?

It’s not even about seniority. Most of the troublemakers don’t even commute.

And I bet ol TW is behind this. A nice way of thanking us for voting his sorry ass out of office.
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I voted FCFS

They've never explained how a hybrid would work.
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I voted FCFS

They've never explained how a hybrid would work.
The only way it can work:

You’d have an elite senior segment who could reliably get a Jumpseat several days out. And we all know none of them would cancel that reservation if they made alternate plans.

So in places with lots and lots of jumpseaters (like PIT) you’d have maybe the top 30% who could actually commute. The rest would have to move or drive.
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Why don’t these old beastards bent on screwing everyone just retire?



It’s not even about seniority. Most of the troublemakers don’t even commute.



And I bet ol TW is behind this. A nice way of thanking us for voting his sorry ass out of office.


I’m not sure if you are referring to the poll in DFW or the j/s issue...

RB’s first act (afaik) was putting out a poll to his constituency - TW NEVER DID THAT. TW was always the smartest guy in the room, so he didn’t need to know what his membership wanted...

I fly with a lot of senior NB Captains doing turns, and all of them like fcfs. Hopefully they will vote.

Go vote, send sound offs.

BTW... 8% voted in CLT for first round VC ballots. DFW had around 50% (if memory serves) in the last round to replace (by an overwhelming vote) TW and to give JW a shot at fixing things. Even the APAthetic LAA guys are getting engaged!!!

8%

Please send sound offs and vote when/if you want things changed.


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Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
The only way it can work:

You’d have an elite senior segment who could reliably get a Jumpseat several days out. And we all know none of them would cancel that reservation if they made alternate plans.

So in places with lots and lots of jumpseaters (like PIT) you’d have maybe the top 30% who could actually commute. The rest would have to move or drive.
If what you say is true, and 70% of commuters won't be able to get a js by booking four or more days in advance, a FCFS system won't change that it will just change who can get the js.

Honestly the hybrid isn't that big of a deal BUT no one has ever explained how it would be "awarded". That was my issue with it. It would be such a convoluted mess to implement.
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Originally Posted by Cheddar View Post
I’m not sure if you are referring to the poll in DFW or the j/s issue...

RB’s first act (afaik) was putting out a poll to his constituency - TW NEVER DID THAT. TW was always the smartest guy in the room, so he didn’t need to know what his membership wanted...

I fly with a lot of senior NB Captains doing turns, and all of them like fcfs. Hopefully they will vote.

Go vote, send sound offs.

BTW... 8% voted in CLT for first round VC ballots. DFW had around 50% (if memory serves) in the last round to replace (by an overwhelming vote) TW and to give JW a shot at fixing things. Even the APAthetic LAA guys are getting engaged!!!

8%

Please send sound offs and vote when/if you want things changed.


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^^^^^This.

This is RB's way of showing he's willing to listen the membership and not give you your opinion.
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