Rawhide16

I created this thread for jcountry and everyone else that continually derail legitimate threads with their incessant complaining about the JCBA, APA, management, AA QOL, etc, so that the other threads remain useful and people don't have to sort through dozens of pages of verbal diarreah to find pertinent info.

My recommendation would be to keep it constructive and provide some realistic solutions to your perceived problems.

Hetman

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jcountry

I think *****ing/griping threads are a great first step!

Come on in, the water’s fine!

(Hey look! There’s a Baby Ruth floating in the pool.... Dibs for the thread starter!)

Air Stang 7

The grocery was out of Jarlsberg cheese today. I’m pretty upset about it.

Rawhide16

I agree with you to a point. However, it’s the same ‘ole story with nearly every thread on here. Someone asks a legitimate question and it quickly devolves to a *****fest.

I’m all for constructive *****ing but yours nearly always borders on irrational.

Rawhide16

And what is your proposed solution to said problem?

jcountry

Do you know how to fix APA?

I'd love to hear it.

I think ALPA would just be run by the same asshats-for twice the dues....

Look around the industry. Look at our JCBA. We have some very serious issues. I get a little upset when people try and defend the asshats who told everyone that our contract is awesome and we should pass it.

Rawhide16

I don't disagree with you. However, there's a time and a place for everything. The whole point of this thread is to give you a "safe space" to air your grievances without derailing every other thread. The thread was not meant just to call you out but to actually offer a place for constructive *****ing instead of ruining otherwise good threads.

With regard to APA vs ALPA, I'll defer to those smarter than me as I'm new to the 121 world and don't know yet the inner workings of contract negotiations. From what I've gathered from your many rants is that you hate APA and you hate ALPA more. Are you suggesting that we operate without a union? If not, which union pleases you? From my limited time in the 121 world I've noticed that ALPA has been at the negotiating table for most, if not all, of the current industry leading contracts (DAL, FedEx, UAL). If nothing else, they may give a little more bite and additional resources for our negotiations instead of letting APA run the show.

BOGSAT

A wise LAA pilot told me: “APA has never had an industry leading contract. Never!”

I think our senior pilot group suffers from Stockholm Syndrome?

Air Stang 7

Either go to another store or wait for the next delivery on Monday. It’s still annoying having to deal with it.