Al Czervik

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HEADS UP! A card drive to replace APA with ALPA is officially underway. We have formed 'APA to ALPA, LLC.', and are asking for donations to get a website and mailers going. We can do better - please consdider donating $$ and/or a few hours of your time to this effort! The contact information is:

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[email protected]

We are working to get a website up soon, but in the mean time email us with any questions. Once we have successfully completed our goal and we shut down the LLC, any left over funds will be donated to a charity.
Thanks for your support.

Frip

I am not 100% sure but I don't believe that "card drive" is actually, or technically, correct.

This sounds like an alternative method to push the parties towards a negotiated merger that has been rumbling about in the basement for a while.

If so, it is probably a much better solution. Card drives are fraught with danger, including that of winding up with no representation at all or with some even worse crap association than we have now.

A merger of some sort implies a "deal" and some ability to negotiate terms and dues and disposition of property and a bunch of other stuff that is worth doing in a controlled and business-like manner.

Saabs

Was the admiral finally correct ?

Doug Masters

Be careful what you wish for...

EMBFlyer

Never.....

EMBFlyer

This is SO not wise. With the apathy that abounds this place daily (let alone when something big comes up), we could quickly find ourselves without any representation at all.

Laker24

I disagree. I think the group is pretty well informed and motivated. Our current contract was negotiated in bankruptcy. How many pilot groups got a raise during Ch 11? The AAL pilot group is eager to get an industry leading contract. The LOS NOW movement forced APA to act. Likewise I bet this movement will force APAs hand on an ALPA merger.

Route66

Ha, Ha, Ha.....you funny man!

Route66

What representation? With the apathy you describe (and I agree with, BTW) what makes anyone think a card drive is worth it? Just smoke and mirrors. Say what you want about USAPA, but we held a card drive twice (the second time was because the cards got cut off wrong and we had to get everyone to sign again....which they gladly did) and the turnout was great both times.

Wont happen here. Your better off with no union. At least the Company gave us the profit sharing, pay raises and $1000 bonus. None of which the union got us. Except the LOS for furloughed guys while stripping the LUS guys of theirs.

The real question you should be asking is how many guys are out there that simply don't give a ______.

Here, I'll give you my "two cent" contribution: GOOD LUCK!!!

jcountry

I’d much rather see a Recall Carey drive.

I am privy to more behind the scenes info about that turd than I was. Remember the video in which he said he wouldn’t credit more than a line pilot if elected? Has anyone checked up on those credits? Investigate that little tip of his iceberg.

And that little 20k thing he attempted to expense for his wife to attend some conference with him. He should have been recalled the second that news dropped! That’s beyond disrespectful and/or tone deaf. That’s serious lack of ethics.

He really needs to be recalled before we negotiate anything.

The negotiating comm will probably do an excellent job. And I think DC will just override them and lock them out. Exactly like LOS.

I’m very concerned about what he will give us to vote on. Especially in terms of scope.

We have serious problems w/APA, and we better start taking this one very seriously. ALPA won’t fix an ounce of this sort of thing.