Laker24

Scope guarantees that all aircraft above a certain size have to be flown by mainline American Airlines pilots. Without scope instead of paying a B737 CA 300k Parker could put the 737 at Envoy and have them fly it for 90k. More than half of AAL departures are operated by the regionals. Without scope that ratio would get worse and worse.

redbaronahp

On many occasions before getting hired at AA when riding the Jumpseat and making idle chit chat the pilots would say, you know we’re hiring. That comment has been heard by many regional pilots that have had their apps in at all the majors for many years. It’s not really a joke as a frustrating reality. When I interviewed I was told that there were over 6,000 active applications that had been updated within the past 90 days. It’s a competitive industry and the numbers I’ve seen are only about 10% of the new hires have a civilian only background and were hired off the street outside of a flow-through agreement. That’s less than 100 people per year.

PRS Guitars

It’s not that they are military pilots saying “you know we’re hiring” it’s old guys that aren’t in touch with the hiring situation in the industry that say that.

PRS Guitars

It’s time for you to start learning this stuff (scope, etc), we have contract negotiations coming up, you need to be up to speed, and ready to recognize a bad TA (Tentative Agreement) and vote NO on it. In case you hadn’t learned yet, we have a lagging contract. PM me if you have any other questions, I was (am) military background as well.

Name User

No one is buying the 319 because for $5m more you can get an airplane that seats almost 50% more people on only a slight increase in operating costs (the 321).

BOGSAT

What ever happened to the “deal” with Frontier for their 319s?

Slowmover

Thanks for the explanations!

Yeah I know... as soon as I get off IOE I plan to spend more time on it. My APA mentor has been a huge help so far and I imagine that will continue.

Cactusone

Word is one is in paint this month.


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Al Czervik

Who wuz dat?!?!

Regionalsuck

To add to what others said, the way it will go down is the company will dangle a carrot of $$$ or whatever to get more scope relief in contract negotiations. Don't fall for it, that is why the industry is so screwed up already. The quick cash they try to tempt people with will never make up for the destruction of your career here long term. That is why half of the airline departures are now flown by people making peanuts living paycheck to paycheck for the last decade + and never get the chance to move up. If the jobs were still at AA and not at 10 different regionals the people at AA, DAL, UAL people wouldn't have been out on furlough forever and wouldn't have stagnated in the right seat with virtually no upwards progression for nearly 20 years while the regionals grew bigger and bigger now flying 4+ hour flights cross country paying an FO 24K a year.

The scary thing is there is so many old people here near retirement that literally don't give a damn about long term viability of the job here, many will sell out everyone in a second if given the opportunity. They will be happy to throw everyone under the bus, take the quick cash and be gone off into the sunset before everyones career here is wrecked and stagnated again due to more outsourcing cheaper labor at the regionals.

Scope needs to be reeled back in and the regionals need to die.