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Name User 07-15-2018 07:06 PM

Personally I identify as a woman so I don't wear a tie. It's pretty sweet.

justfun 07-15-2018 07:30 PM

Congrats you are correct that it was not written correctly. The point still remains the same though. You come to work with a day or nights growth on your face and take exception to the CA giving you grief about it?! That is the point of my bringing this up.

As to the FA's having beards or chin music, who cares they are not pilots. If they come into the C/P while we step out to go our business and a sudden loss of pressure occurs it their problem not ours.

There are plenty of pilots here who are not in the best of shape, men and women, young and old, so that can't be isolated to the CAs.

Al Czervik 07-15-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2635447)
Im a new hire and I havent seen unshaven FO’s but I do see a lot of sloppy CPT’s in black tennis shoes.

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450knotOffice 07-15-2018 08:25 PM

While I personally could not care less if a pilot has some stubble, the fact that it’s written company policy to be clean shaven means that a new hire (or any probationary pilot) should probably not push it and be offended if a captain calls them out on it. What’s more important? Keeping yourself out of trouble and keeping your job, or being butthurt because some captain dared call you out for not shaving, as required?

Suck it up and play along. After probation, if you want to fight it, go right ahead.

Quarryman 07-16-2018 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by justfun (Post 2635546)
Congrats you are correct that it was not written correctly. The point still remains the same though. You come to work with a day or nights growth on your face and take exception to the CA giving you grief about it?! That is the point of my bringing this up.

As to the FA's having beards or chin music, who cares they are not pilots. If they come into the C/P while we step out to go our business and a sudden loss of pressure occurs it their problem not ours.

There are plenty of pilots here who are not in the best of shape, men and women, young and old, so that can't be isolated to the CAs.

If you're referring to the oxygen mask not sealing around the face that's bunk. Plenty of bearded pilots around to be world. I'm sure their masks fit just fine.

awax 07-16-2018 04:32 AM

Some people don’t think that how it be, but it do.


So, if they don’t show up unshaven, they’re showing up ______________?

Mover 07-16-2018 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by justfun (Post 2635381)
As I understand it there is a new hire/flow thru FB page. Which is a good thing so that they can pass along nice to know things about AA and how to navigate the antiquated DECS program, and probably answer some contract stuff.


There has been some discussion about the fact that some dont show up for work unshaven. The CA calls them on it and they are ****ed because of it?! Really, you are ****ed because, the CA asks why you are not shaved when coming to work in a uniform that represents our profession?

How do you know?

MarineGrunt 07-16-2018 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Cheddar (Post 2635494)
I’ll shave because FM1 says shave. But we have male flight attendants that don’t shave, wear makeup and have earrings. We have a CEO and management team that rarely wear ties.



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Well, we also have male pilots who wear makeup and earrings (to include women’s pilot uniform).....

jdflyer1999 07-16-2018 09:10 AM

It’s not that hard to look the part. Pressed pants and shirt at the dry cleaners $4.50. Shoe polish at the airport is $5-7. That’s about one trip to Starbucks. At $88.28/hr for a new hire that’s easily accomplished.

And yes I have shown up to work unshaven once. Met the captain, owned my appearance before he said anything and no problem. The reason was No water at the house due to water meter going bad. Had to bathe in the pool.

jcountry 07-16-2018 09:33 AM

This is silly.

We get paid like professionals. Why the hell is it so hard to look like professionals?

Newsflash: We have a uniform. Wear it like a damned adult.
(And yes. Adults do actually groom themselves-shaving and the whole 9 yards.)


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